Revisiting the West's view of China internet censorship
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#2Non paywall version here [0], I have to think some Western governments are looking again at China's internet policies for inspiration. Tim Cook, for one, seems [1] to be encouraging it.
[0]: https://outline.com/8LNkuq [1]: https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/apple-tim-cook-tec...
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#3Eric Shcmidt made some bold forecast echoing some of this sentiment in a September private VC event.[1]
[1]: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/eric-schmidt-ex-google-ceo-p...
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#4Non paywall version here [0], I have to think some Western governments are looking again at China's internet policies for inspiration. Tim Cook, for one, seems [1] to be encouraging it. [0]: https://outline.com/8LNkuq [1]: https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/apple-tim-cook-tec...
China's internet policies are an inspiration for GDPR-style privacy regulation? I don't understand.
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#5Eric Shcmidt made some bold forecast echoing some of this sentiment in a September private VC event.[1] [1]: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/eric-schmidt-ex-google-ceo-p...
There are two distinct internets already, getting bandwidth to move data in and out of China is an expensive proposition, combined with the Great Firewall makes it such that domestic companies have significant advantages compared to overseas competitors.
Those domestic companies seem to be starting to innovate on their own, though there is quite a bit of back and forth between US researchers and their counterparts in China. Whether or not this will translate to commercial success outside the protective walled garden is questionable, thus far we haven't seen Baidu or others break into major markets outside China and keep its apps, websites, etc popular for more than brief blips.
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#6Non paywall version here [0], I have to think some Western governments are looking again at China's internet policies for inspiration. Tim Cook, for one, seems [1] to be encouraging it. [0]: https://outline.com/8LNkuq [1]: https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/apple-tim-cook-tec...
China's internet policies are an inspiration for GDPR-style privacy regulation? I don't understand.
No, many neoliberals & center right supporting people like Tim Cook have taken to this idea that we should censor certain views after the defeat of Hillary.
Its a weak argument responding to the expression of the dropping standard of living for the poorest among us here in America, and it was a massive blindspot that Hillary's data science team didn't pick up on: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/9sy7g1/di_...
Edit: People of Tim Cook's beliefs, eg: the Gay Log Cabin Republicans mostly died out during the AIDS crisis. A very similar strain of political ideology was heralded by Hillary in this past electoral cycle. Basically a "Fuck you, got mine. Don't you have magical bootstraps? Oh, here is a tiny, useless smidgen of help".
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#7NYTimes is going overdrive cranking out favorable coverage on China the past couple of days. Perhaps NYTimes editors got some reminder from Wall Street that China again needs to be sold to the American public. Since Wall Street dismantled the American workers 30 years ago with NAFTA and China/WTO, it probably felt like it can do it again with the incoming $250B tariff on Chinese imports.
Problem is, US is winning, big - China Is Paying for Most of Trump's Trade War, Research Says. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-19/china-is-...
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#8I think they make a good point about how the laxness of China's intellectual property laws is a boon to consumers, and maybe innovation.
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#9Eric Shcmidt made some bold forecast echoing some of this sentiment in a September private VC event.[1] [1]: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/eric-schmidt-ex-google-ceo-p...
There are two distinct internets already, getting bandwidth to move data in and out of China is an expensive proposition, combined with the Great Firewall makes it such that domestic companies have significant advantages compared to overseas competitors. Those domestic companies seem to be starting to innovate on their own, though there is quite a bit of back and forth between US researchers and their counterparts in…
>Whether or not this will translate to commercial success outside the protective walled garden is questionable...
Is that something the party cares about? (The Communist Party I mean).
Serious question.
How interested are they in having Americans or Bolivians or whatever engage in the daily use of Chinese internet sites and apps? My sense is that they don't really care about that. It seems that it's more a priority that we, on our part, assume the party has. I honestly wonder if they care?
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are two distinct internets already, getting bandwidth to move data in and out of China is an expensive proposition, combined with the Great Firewall makes it such that domestic companies have significant advantages compared to overseas competitors. Those domestic companies seem to be starting to innovate on their own, though there is quite a bit of back and forth between US researchers and their counterparts in…
> Whether or not this will translate to commercial success outside the protective walled garden is questionable... Is that something the party cares about? (The Communist Party I mean). Serious question. How interested are they in having Americans or Bolivians or whatever engage in the daily use of Chinese internet sites and apps? My sense is that they don't really care about that. It seems that it's more a priority…
Well if you want to make money from those other people, or have easier access to whats happening in the world globally, yes.