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Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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I wish other companies could get the same kind of scrutiny as Facebook. For some reason while most scandals are pushed down and quickly forgotten, Facebook is being dragged around for all its worth. Maybe they weren't planting enough stories.

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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I wish other companies could get the same kind of scrutiny as Facebook. For some reason while most scandals are pushed down and quickly forgotten, Facebook is being dragged around for all its worth. Maybe they weren't planting enough stories.

I feel quite the opposite. Outside of hackernews there is almost no scrutiny as far as I see. (In the eu anyway)

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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Patrick Gaspard, the president of the Open Society Foundation, just saying, “The notion that your company at your direction actively engaged in the same behavior to try to discredit people exercising their First Amendment rights to protest Facebook’s role in disseminating vile propaganda is frankly astonishing to me. It’s disappointing to see how you have failed to monitor hate and misinformation on Facebook’s platform to now learning that you are active in promoting this distortion is beyond the pale.”

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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I wish other companies could get the same kind of scrutiny as Facebook. For some reason while most scandals are pushed down and quickly forgotten, Facebook is being dragged around for all its worth. Maybe they weren't planting enough stories.

Which companies do you refer?

I am fine with other companies facing public backlash for their actions just like Facebook is now if they are doing things as shady as Facebook.

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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perhaps this is an incendiary comment, but i really do wonder what all of the HN facebook employees are telling themselves to deal with the cognitive dissonance caused by this latest scandal wherein facebook paid for smear campaigns to distract from their own dirty laundry.

every time i have encountered these people on HN, they've portrayed a cultlike naivety regarding their organization's actions. they always allude to the outside world "not knowing the whole story" or something similar. in other words, they've made excuses.

but i really do want to see what the excuses are this time. i imagine they will be particularly entertaining.

more seriously, it's time for facebook to wrap it up. we've known for years that they were abusing the public trust. while i doubt we will see any leadership from congress regarding breaking up the company or degrading their capabilities to hurt the public interest, the intense amount of flak that FB has been getting lately is immensely promising. plenty of people are leaving FB.

while it is true that many of these people are leaving for instagram, it's a critically different product. i think instagram has a much more limited ability to negatively impact the public good via propaganda etc mostly because it isn't as participatory as facebook.

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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I wish other companies could get the same kind of scrutiny as Facebook. For some reason while most scandals are pushed down and quickly forgotten, Facebook is being dragged around for all its worth. Maybe they weren't planting enough stories.

It's probably a deliberate strategy by the carbon industry to distract attention away from them.

Facebook et al all deserve the attention, mind, especially in mobile. The amount of information mining done via apps (and especially by pre-installed apps which you cannot uninstall) is a scandal.

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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Are you f-ing kidding me? Until 90%+ of FB users start dropping dead because of lung cancer then that statement is complete garbage.

EDIT: a lot of people are taking my statement as meaning not to criticize Facebook. That is not it at all! It just means not to lose perspective. At least I still consider tobacco to be far worse, directly causing ~7M deaths annually with no visible benefit.

EDIT 2: Genuine question: has anyone studied the rise of fascism post-FB vs. pre-FB? It's not like dictatorships and far-right governments didn't get elected pre-FB. Obviously I am one of those who doubt FB's direct responsibility vs. it being simply a media narrative against a business threat.

[1] http://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tobacco

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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Clickbait. I think the actual story was already posted a few days back.

I'm pretty sure tabbaco has killed a few more people than Facebook, so this is a ridiculous comparison.

Facebook does a lot for which it should be criticized, but it feels like we're just beating on a dead horse.

It's also hilarious that someone would be so critical of Facebook all while including their share button in the same article. Apparently they're evil, but not evil enough to stop using their service. I think that says a lot about the author.

Re: Facebook’s top execs ‘make tobacco executives look like Mr. Rogers’

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post #8

Are you f-ing kidding me? Until 90%+ of FB users start dropping dead because of lung cancer then that statement is complete garbage. EDIT: a lot of people are taking my statement as meaning not to criticize Facebook. That is not it at all! It just means not to lose perspective. At least I still consider tobacco to be far worse, directly causing ~7M deaths annually with no visible benefit. EDIT 2: Genuine question: ha…

What if 90% of democracies start dropping dead?
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