Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
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Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#2This seems related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18383553 (Microsoft Beats Amazon in 12-Month Cloud Revenue), where this point was discussed almost endlessly:
> These numbers are very misleading considering they wrap up things like Office into “cloud revenue.”
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#3This seems related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18383553 (Microsoft Beats Amazon in 12-Month Cloud Revenue), where this point was discussed almost endlessly: > These numbers are very misleading considering they wrap up things like Office into “cloud revenue.”
If the critieria for cloud is "it's a service on the internet," wait 'till they hear about Google's "cloud advertising" business.
You don't even have to host your own ad servers! They just appear on your website like magic!
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#4This seems related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18383553 (Microsoft Beats Amazon in 12-Month Cloud Revenue), where this point was discussed almost endlessly: > These numbers are very misleading considering they wrap up things like Office into “cloud revenue.”
Google also wraps GSuite into Cloud revenue, and Amazon wraps their competitor into Cloud revenue. So, it's not misleading.
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#5Touching on big G trying to catch up - I've recently had some issues with GCP and while the addition of more accessible support (you can now reach some support person relatively easy) it helps little unless it's a request that they can handle with a single button press. While it now FEELS less frustrating as you have somebody to talk to, it doesn't help that I have an issue that is being ping-ponged around different reps for >10 days by now.
Regarding MS taking 2nd place - recently came in contact with their cloud. It's not up to par to the rest from a tech perspective, however, they are killing it on their sales channels and in sectors such as banks and retail due to their ubiquity in those.
Edit: Wording, horrible is not the best description of the MS cloud, just not as good for me.
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#6Touching on big G trying to catch up - I've recently had some issues with GCP and while the addition of more accessible support (you can now reach some support person relatively easy) it helps little unless it's a request that they can handle with a single button press. While it now FEELS less frustrating as you have somebody to talk to, it doesn't help that I have an issue that is being ping-ponged around different…
Explain, how it is horrible from a tech perspective? (hint: it's not)
Edit: I'm getting downvoted, but no one as of yet has shown how Azure is built on horrible tech compared to its peers. It's just a flat lie, none of the big 3 are built on horrible tech. It's just being dishonest and is basically fanboyism/hatred of one party. You can argue about UI you like or don't (I prefer Azure) you can argue about APIs, their IaaS and SaaS, you can argue that Azure isn't as good on the "edge" compared to GCS, you can say kubernetes is a bumpier ride on Azure etc, but saying the tech is "horrible" is not correct. Sorry. This isn't early 2000s Slashdot.
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#7This seems related to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18383553 (Microsoft Beats Amazon in 12-Month Cloud Revenue), where this point was discussed almost endlessly: > These numbers are very misleading considering they wrap up things like Office into “cloud revenue.”
And as discussed to death in the linked thread, what Microsoft should've done instead? Excluded Office from the cloud revenue, simply because Amazon didn't make as much money from their own office productivity suite (but still included it in their cloud revenue numbers)?
MSFT used cloud revenue metrics consistent with those of the competitors (Amazon and Google), which is the proper way to do it, imo.
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#8Microsoft will reap the rewards of supporting XP and Office for decades, that wins enterprise trust & goodwill, and clients will expect that from Azure. On the other hand, every month we have a new product/service of Google being deprecated (officially or by raising prices). Even if it's technically better, the most sane business decision from enterprise would be to bet on Microsoft for support reasons. Microsoft talks the enterprise talk and walks the enterprise walk. Google probably has a fun and hackster image in the eyes of enterprise.
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#9Touching on big G trying to catch up - I've recently had some issues with GCP and while the addition of more accessible support (you can now reach some support person relatively easy) it helps little unless it's a request that they can handle with a single button press. While it now FEELS less frustrating as you have somebody to talk to, it doesn't help that I have an issue that is being ping-ponged around different…
Explain, how it is horrible from a tech perspective? (hint: it's not) Edit: I'm getting downvoted, but no one as of yet has shown how Azure is built on horrible tech compared to its peers. It's just a flat lie, none of the big 3 are built on horrible tech. It's just being dishonest and is basically fanboyism/hatred of one party. You can argue about UI you like or don't (I prefer Azure) you can argue about APIs, their…
Their UIs and tooling are inconsistent and clunky. They kind of shove some of their tooling on to you as well.
Obviously, my experience is rather shallow here and wouldn't dare go into too deep discussions on that. And the shoving part can easily be avoided with some extra elbow grease.
Re: Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud
#10Given how customer unfriendly google seems it is not surprising. If you are running a service and google shuts it down or just closes your account with no explanation it might be hard for you.