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Google self-driving car crashes were covered up

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Did Google pay off the Camry driver? If I was pushed into an accident by a car with company decals and a sensor suite on top [1], I'd definitely include this when reporting the accident. It's an incredible story, and I'm not sure whether I say that in it's literal or figurative meaning. (Note that the author of the article is Charles Duhigg, a Pulitzer-price winning journalist - so it's not just a story posted by some dude on his blog).

[1] https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cdgQpa1pUUE/maxresdefault.jpg (This is the type of cars they had in 2012).

Re: Google self-driving car crashes were covered up

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So, does that mean the "spotless safety record" meant "you can't find anything about our mistakes"? That doesn't sound creepy at all, nonono.

Everyone games the mandatory safety reporting. Mostly by doing testing under the radar and/or outside California. Google has taken that a step further by counting disengagements (meaning instances of the system failing and having to be overriden by the driver) only when the system would definitely have crashed.

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How does a man require multiple surgeries to his spine from an accident but the company paying for those surgeries claims the accident isn’t known? That’s about as amazing as Hollywood accounting.

Playing the devils advocate here: There was (apparently) no physical contact between the cars, so one could just tell a different story about the type of accident, or just leave out that the Camry then pinwheeled into the median. (Reason for lying about it could be that they drove the car in autonomous mode on 'forbidden routes' and feared repercussions).

Having said that - I doubt that's how things happened.

Re: Google self-driving car crashes were covered up

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This is just a sensationalist snippet from the long read from the New Yorker that was on hacker news yesterday. The engineer responsible was fired from Google for forming his own company and eventually went to Uber which was the cause of the massive lawsuit between the two, he's now close to unemployable. Since that incident 4 years ago it's pretty clear a lot has changed -but one thing that hasn't changed is Google's constant misrepresentation of their safety record.

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post #8

How does a man require multiple surgeries to his spine from an accident but the company paying for those surgeries claims the accident isn’t known? That’s about as amazing as Hollywood accounting.

Playing the devils advocate here: There was (apparently) no physical contact between the cars, so one could just tell a different story about the type of accident, or just leave out that the Camry then pinwheeled into the median. (Reason for lying about it could be that they drove the car in autonomous mode on 'forbidden routes' and feared repercussions). Having said that - I doubt that's how things happened.

'pinwheeled into the median' sounds like loosing control...

That only is likley to happen if someone hits someone else...

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