Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by rockhymas » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 2:11 PM UTC

Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2
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Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by endtime » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 2:40 PM UTC

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by gabeiscoding » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 3:03 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

I do for my team. As a small business that sells commercial software, I am totally not opposed to paying for good software.

I've been watching Fogbugz for a while. Our previous solution was Trac + Subversion for about 5 years and it served us very well. Before Fogbugz added Kiln there wasn't enough of an advantage to making a switch. The other factor that won me over was EBS.

We transitioned to a self-hosted FogBugz+Kiln install a couple months ago and I've been very happy with it, especially with the development velocity and very flawless upgrade process and customer support.

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by tseabrooks » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 3:45 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

We are a smallish group (50) in a very large company and we have been using fogbugz for a long while. We are currently transitioning our previous revision system into Kiln.

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by rimantas » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 4:00 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

IMHO, Redmine is much better product with much worse marketing :( (Stuck with FogBugz for now).

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by slantyyz » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 4:12 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

I do. Company I used to work for who I still contract with uses the hosted version. As an independent, I use the free hosted version for 'startups and students'. I think I can have up to two users, max.

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by frisco » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 4:37 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

I do. FogBugz is great and Kiln looks awesome. I'd been hesitating on Kiln since we use git, but I honestly think I'll end up moving over eventually.

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by gecko » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 4:41 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

I do...but you could accuse me of being somewhat biased: http://bitquabit.com/about/

If anyone has any questions about Kiln or FogBugz, I'd be happy to answer them here. I'm glad to see so many positive comments though, especially about Kiln.

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by ciupicri » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 5:46 PM UTC

rimantas wrote: post #5

endtime wrote: post #2

Somewhat tangential, but does anyone on HN actually use FogBugz over something free like Redmine?

IMHO, Redmine is much better product with much worse marketing :( (Stuck with FogBugz for now).

What about Evidence-Based Scheduling[1]?

[1] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/10/26.html

Re: Deploying FogBugz 8 and Kiln 2

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Post by rimantas » Fri, Oct 22, 2010, 5:57 PM UTC

ciupicri wrote: post #9

rimantas wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO, Redmine is much better product with much worse marketing :( (Stuck with FogBugz for now).

What about Evidence-Based Scheduling[1]? [1] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/10/26.html

I remember reading about it (did not actually used FB till this year) back then and it sounded interesting. We are not using it and neither did the company I worked before. This feature would probably fit badly for the type the work we do now—most work is done in maintenance mode. If anyone used EBS it would be interesting to hear about your thoughts about it.