Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
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Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#2While the promise sounds great, it's important to note that no law has actually been passed.
Also, incentives to increase sales of electric vehicles are yet to be announced.
Denmark's Scandinavian neighbour Norway is on the other side of the spectrum. Heavy subsidisation has caused every 2nd (!) car sold to be electric (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-environment-norway-autos/...).
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#3As great as it is, remember that hybrids are exempt. And the law is very lax when it comes to a definition of a hybrid - Range Rover has a model with a whooping 1 mile(!!!) of electric range, but of course it has an electric motor so it qualifies as a hybrid and could still be sold under this ban. I expect very very soon we'll see this kind of extremely minor electrification coming to all kinds of vehicles, where a tiny electric motor integrated into the transmission provides few extra HP of power just to call the car a hybrid.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#42030 is ages away, try 2020.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#5Instead of governments announcing bans (I believe france announced a future ban a couple months back), I would rather see these governments committing to only purchasing electric vehicles for all government fleets. Why not put your money were your mouth is and help pump money into the industry via purchasing orders, rather then simply announcing a ban?
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#62030 is ages away, try 2020.
Out of curiosity, are you the kind of person who complains if Google shuts down a free product with less than a 1 year heads up?
I wonder how some HN commenters would do at being head of state, sometimes. The bar seems to have lowered lately anyway.
Edit: just to clarify and be less dismissive: Banning things everyone uses with little homework is a great way to fail at it. Since this is a tech forum, you can think of it kinda like upgrading your language, framework, kernel and landing a massive refactor, all at once, in production, without testing. It's like that, except you have tens-to-hundreds of millions of users, and their lives are at stake.
Bans take time, otherwise they're not effective. Besides, if they had announced 2020, I'm nearly certain the parent comment would ask for 2019.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#72030 is ages away, try 2020.
Out of curiosity, are you the kind of person who complains if Google shuts down a free product with less than a 1 year heads up? I wonder how some HN commenters would do at being head of state, sometimes. The bar seems to have lowered lately anyway. Edit: just to clarify and be less dismissive: Banning things everyone uses with little homework is a great way to fail at it. Since this is a tech forum, you can think of…
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Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#82030 is ages away, try 2020.
Don't forget that car companies plan years ahead. Setting an end-date like this brings the subject on the table of the car companies' board rooms.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#9As great as it is, remember that hybrids are exempt. And the law is very lax when it comes to a definition of a hybrid - Range Rover has a model with a whooping 1 mile(!!!) of electric range, but of course it has an electric motor so it qualifies as a hybrid and could still be sold under this ban. I expect very very soon we'll see this kind of extremely minor electrification coming to all kinds of vehicles, where a t…
The 2019 Range Rover hybrid has an all electric range of 31 miles. Maybe an older model has a 1 mile electric range? That didn't pass the smell test so I had to look it up.
Re: Denmark to ban petrol and diesel car sales by 2030
#10There is a long list of countries that decided to ban fossil fuel burning cars in the upcoming years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_banning_foss...
Personally, I don't think the ban will ever be enforced. It will create the right incentives and most car sales will be electric, but there will still be fossil fuel burning car sales.