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Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Understanding how modern philosophy understands ideology is important. I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't, "share common truth" anymore. In reality this is a decoupling of the DNC, and RNC's ideology. They are no longer one and the same, so what is considered "true" by either has changed, irreparably.

The problem is most Americans politics had a unified ideological understanding of the world for nearly 3 centuries (at least if we count the WASP america). This division is new, and America's distaste of any post 1850's western continental philosophy (as it was mostly dominated by Marxists) means they lack the vocabulary to discuss these concepts, or understand their long tail implications.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Very interesting but I don't think AR is a perfect analogy because as far as I can tell there does not seem to be any such thing as an unbiased non-ideological human viewpoint (overlayed onto). _Everyone_ has a set of foundational nodes in their cognitive perceptual framework (an ideology) that are a core aspect of any view they have of the world. This is a pretty fundamental problem for politics.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Maybe religion is the original augmented reality. Interesting way to think about it, anyway.

religion is a facet, or component of ideology.

I see them as overlapping sets.

Religion has elements of ideology, some ideologies are derived from, related to, or specifically opposed to religious belief. That last might be an XOR.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Understanding how modern philosophy understands ideology is important. I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't, " share common truth " anymore. In reality this is a decoupling of the DNC, and RNC's ideology. They are no longer one and the same, so what is considered " true " by either has changed, irreparably. The problem is most Americans politics had a unified ideological understanding of the wo…

>I bemoan hearing american-liberals discuss how people don't...

I think the point is that "bemoaning" that is an ideology in itself. So your own reality is "augmented" with a belief set that is, likely, not terribly representative of reality. You've simply filled in the gaps in everyday experiences with something that you can, at once, understand, and is comfortable to you.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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Maybe religion is the original augmented reality. Interesting way to think about it, anyway.

religion is a facet, or component of ideology.

I would not describe the defining parts of buddhism as ideological so much as philosophical and sensuous. I’m not sure a good definition of religion exists. You’re being hugey reductive.

Re: Ideology Is the Original Augmented Reality

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post #6

Very interesting but I don't think AR is a perfect analogy because as far as I can tell there does not seem to be any such thing as an unbiased non-ideological human viewpoint (overlayed onto). _Everyone_ has a set of foundational nodes in their cognitive perceptual framework (an ideology) that are a core aspect of any view they have of the world. This is a pretty fundamental problem for politics.

I think you're talking about humans, whereas the article was talking about reality.

Amount of CO2 in the air. Number of Rohingya killed. Amount of crude in Cantarell at this moment. Etc etc etc ad infinitum.

What are the answers to those questions? What are the physical implications? (ie-what will the Earth physically do with all the CO2? There is definitely an answer to that question which is non-ideological and unbiased, and, unfortunately, only really known for certain by Mother Nature.) All such questions, in fact, have answers that are, very much, non-ideological, and unbiased. Unfortunately, they are not really perceptible by humans without help. Sometimes our science can help, sometimes our knowledge of psychology can help, etc. But that's where our ideologies will come in. Only human perception of these very physical states, and their implications, are ideological. Because the ideology is augmenting the base reality with something we can understand. Something comfortable and intuitive for us.

Sorry for rambling. I think someone else might be able to explain it better. But it's my best shot at explaining why I think AR is a pretty good analogy for ideology.

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