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Police that collect more in fees and fines are less effective at solving crime

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>If Middletown’s police department collected only about 1 percent of its revenue from fees and fines, our model predicts it would solve 53 percent of its violent crimes and 32 percent of its property crimes. But if Middletown’s police department instead collected 3 percent of its revenue from fees and fines, our model predicts that clearance rates would fall to 41 percent for violent crimes and 16 percent for property crimes. That’s a stark drop of 12 and 16 percentage points, respectively.

I want to see this broken down in terms of business days between crime and someone being charged.

I have a suspicion that the correlation is being diluted by all the open and shut "guy A punches guy B and gets charged with assault and battery because everyone in the bar saw him do it" cases that don't require any investigating (other than possibly collecting statements) types of violent crime that will get "solved" regardless of how much time the police spend collecting fines.

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It makes no sense that money police collects goes directly towards funding any government department. It should go into a tax refund pool.

I was trying to think of a place to stick the money that wouldn't incentivize over-policing and couldn't think of one. But your option is perfect. There's obviously no incentive for government employees to return money to tax payers, so if anything, this would incentivize under-enforcement of fines and fees.

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No understand the title. The article is blocked (at least in Europe).

The grammar must have been butchered when creating an HN-friendly title.

The current WaPo headline: "What happens to police departments that collect more fines? They solve fewer crimes."

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It makes no sense that money police collects goes directly towards funding any government department. It should go into a tax refund pool.

It makes no sense if your goal is to avoid corruption and ensure justice. That’s a really big “if.”

Re: Police that collect more in fees and fines are less effective at solving crime

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>If Middletown’s police department collected only about 1 percent of its revenue from fees and fines, our model predicts it would solve 53 percent of its violent crimes and 32 percent of its property crimes. But if Middletown’s police department instead collected 3 percent of its revenue from fees and fines, our model predicts that clearance rates would fall to 41 percent for violent crimes and 16 percent for propert…

But those types of crimes would need to occur at significantly different rates between different fine and fee jurisdictions.
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