Apple Is Secretly Giving People 'Trust Scores' Based on Their Iphone Data
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#2This is not like the Black Mirror episode, Nosedive (or a similar episode of the Orville), because people aren’t rating others and scores aren’t known at all. The behavior changes from constantly rating and being rated by lots of subjective raters is what scared me in the episode.
This is similar to other risk or trust algorithm used by banks, healthcare, ctrfit agencies, email services, etc.
It could be bad depending on what Apple does with it, obviously, but this seems like a way integrate more device data into their fraud detection methods.
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#3This is not like the Black Mirror episode, Nosedive (or a similar episode of the Orville), because people aren’t rating others and scores aren’t known at all. The behavior changes from constantly rating and being rated by lots of subjective raters is what scared me in the episode. This is similar to other risk or trust algorithm used by banks, healthcare, ctrfit agencies, email services, etc. It could be bad dependin…
Yes, the comparison with the episode looks unreasonable. Still, it sounds that Apple processes personal data without any possibility to opt-out.
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#4How can we opt-out of having Apple or Google from accessing personal data?
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#5I'm confused by the headline.
The quote from Apple is that they're computing trust scores for your devices for when you attempt a purchase. It sounds like the more you use the device, the more trusted it is. That brand new device that you've never used before shouldn't be trusted.
What I don't understand is how you can reasonably stretch that out to giving people trust scores.
Click bait?
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#6I'm confused by the headline. The quote from Apple is that they're computing trust scores for your devices for when you attempt a purchase. It sounds like the more you use the device, the more trusted it is. That brand new device that you've never used before shouldn't be trusted. What I don't understand is how you can reasonably stretch that out to giving people trust scores. Click bait?
>>It sounds like the more you use the device, the more trusted it is.
Where did you see it? It says nothing about how the score is calculated.
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#7How can we opt-out of having Apple or Google from accessing personal data?
By not buying and not using their services.
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#8It's nice to see that western tech companies are way ahead of China again.
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#9Phone calls and email? So only senior citizens will be trusted? What about texts? Are calls and apps measured using only Apple apps? What if I used 3rd party apps for these functions?
I get very few phone calls, and half of them are spam calls that I don't answer (only answer calls from known numbers). I don't use Apple Mail. So I'm untrustworthy because my social configuration isn't typical?
My ipad isn't used for calls, messaging or email. Does that mean I can't use my ipad for purchases?
Have to have ID and credit history disclosed to get a phone in the first place. Isn't that enough? Is this only for non-phone devices?
This needs more in-depth reporting. What kind of fraud exactly?
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#10How can we opt-out of having Apple or Google from accessing personal data?
By not buying and not using their services.
How can I not use either Android or iOS? I'm not well versed in data protection policies, but at least in the EU where I live, shouldn't this fall under GDPR? I should be able to opt out of having my personal data to be used by a algorithm to determine my "trust score", whatever that means.