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Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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You have 3 lanes, TODO, DOING, DONE.

Have a max of Work In progress that can be in the DOING lane based on size of team. Once that limit is hit, nothing else can move into the DOING lane, if other's are finished, they go help others until work starts moving into the DONE lane.

DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE.

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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I assume you've briefed yourself about Kanban by reading its Wikipedia article or something similar. "Kanban in Action" by Marcus Hammarberg and Joakim Sunden is a very good read if you're just starting to learn about Kanban.

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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post #2

You have 3 lanes, TODO, DOING, DONE. Have a max of Work In progress that can be in the DOING lane based on size of team. Once that limit is hit, nothing else can move into the DOING lane, if other's are finished, they go help others until work starts moving into the DONE lane. DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE.

> DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE.

Once you have this, you can expand the DOING with additional columns to represent those other stages.

If you implement a new (particularly user-facing) feature, you need to update your manuals. That may be a technical writer, it may be the developer or the tester, may be a team effort, doesn't matter really. So your columns (if this is a requirement for your business) become:

  | TODO | PROGRAM | UPDATE MANUAL | REVIEW | DONE
This is one of the nice things about kanban. It's very fluid, really nothing is set in stone. Allow the board to represent the real process as you discover it.

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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You have 3 lanes, TODO, DOING, DONE. Have a max of Work In progress that can be in the DOING lane based on size of team. Once that limit is hit, nothing else can move into the DOING lane, if other's are finished, they go help others until work starts moving into the DONE lane. DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE.

> DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE. Once you have this, you can expand the DOING with additional columns to represent those other stages. If you implement a new (particularly user-facing) feature, you need to update your manuals. That may be a technical writer, it may be the developer or the tester, may be a team effort, doesn't matter r…

This is no different than agile. I have to define DONE. And I will probaly end of with several degrees of done

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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post #3

I assume you've briefed yourself about Kanban by reading its Wikipedia article or something similar. "Kanban in Action" by Marcus Hammarberg and Joakim Sunden is a very good read if you're just starting to learn about Kanban.

Thanks for the book recommendation. What about a intermediate level? Any recommendations?

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DONE means DONE, if it needs QA, Documentation, install script, whatever, it stays in DOING until it's truly DONE. Once you have this, you can expand the DOING with additional columns to represent those other stages. If you implement a new (particularly user-facing) feature, you need to update your manuals. That may be a technical writer, it may be the developer or the tester, may be a team effort, doesn't matter r…

This is no different than agile. I have to define DONE. And I will probaly end of with several degrees of done

To be clear, kanban cannot be directly compared to agile. Kanban is a tool, not a process, framework, or manifesto.

In all work, you have Done, and done. Capital-D done is when something is ready to be shipped (note: doesn't mean error free, just means it's as far as you're getting). Lower-d done is intermediate states. The kanban board allows you to capture those and relate it to your workforce and workload.

If I have 5 developers, practically speaking we cannot be working on more than 5 development tasks at a time. The kanban board visualizes how much we have going on and allows us to see when we've overreached. If I have 2 tech writers, again we can practically only work on up to two changes to the manual at a time. The kanban board visualizes this, and makes a useful tool within any production or development workflow.

Capital-D Done is that final column (integrated into the master branch, sitting on the loading dock, whatever). Lower-d done is captured by movement between states (Dev -> Test -> Review -> Manual Update -> Done). Of course, it also should be noted that movement can be backwards. This isn't Waterfall, we know that something may move back to dev or test from test or review.

The particular utility with agile is that it helps address the agile manifesto preference for people over processes. A process expressed on a kanban board is not set in stone (as a formally signed off Capital-P Process document would be in a typical enterprise shop). It's much more fluid, and can be redefined to capture the level of information needed by the team and those they work with (partner teams, or management).

Re: Ask HN: Recommended Kanban books

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Here you can find lot of materials regarding Kanban, including (e-)books:

https://www.infoq.com/lean?utm_source=infoq&utm_medium=heade...

I personally recommend free e-book:

"Kanban and Scrum - Making the Most of Both" by Mattias Skarin , Henrik Kniberg:

https://www.infoq.com/minibooks/kanban-scrum-minibook?utm_so...

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