Dulles Airport Surprises Passengers with Facial-Recognition Boarding
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#2fuck them. fuck everyone who worked on this.
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#3> For Thea Ottersen of Norway, privacy was not a major concern, as the general procedure doesn’t differ much from what she has come to expect from American airport security.
Conditioning works.
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#4Note - this is only for international flights, where CBP takes your photo anyway.
Data retention period is 14 days for pilot testing, 12 hours for some unspecified "short term", and zero after that.
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#5Note - this is only for international flights, where CBP takes your photo anyway. Data retention period is 14 days for pilot testing, 12 hours for some unspecified "short term", and zero after that.
don’t kid yourself, there’s no such thing as temporary data retention.
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#6Note - this is only for international flights, where CBP takes your photo anyway. Data retention period is 14 days for pilot testing, 12 hours for some unspecified "short term", and zero after that.
> Note - this is only for international flights, where CBP takes your photo anyway.
Not typically on outbound flights, only inbound as part of customs.
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#7> For Thea Ottersen of Norway, privacy was not a major concern, as the general procedure doesn’t differ much from what she has come to expect from American airport security. Conditioning works.
> They take your picture any time you go to America anyway, so I don’t really mind.
Things not being different is a good reason to not be concerned.
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#8> “The process eliminates the need for an airline employee to manually check every boarding pass and passport while boarding a plane.”
But you can hold accountable an airline or customs gate agent who doesn’t have access to a library of images forming a signature of your face and who may be bound by policies or laws regarding privacy and identity that could be nearly impossible to enforce or even verify with a digital system.
> “No more fumbling with your boarding pass while you have two carry-ons, maybe a kid; no more trying to find your QR code or trying to refresh your screen.”
Yikes, this sounds like Idiocracy to me. I frequently am the befuddled dad traveling with kids and bags, and I can tell you that apart from very exceptional circumstances or special needs, this is not at all any kind of serious inconvenience that requires more surveillance culture. (And for truly special needs situations, there are many parsimonious solution possibilities that don’t use a bazooka to swat a fly like this face recognition system is doing...)
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#9The scan takes fractions of a second and has shown to be 99 percent accurate during testing
Presumably it's 99% effective at matching random faces to the photos -- if a terrorist group has a pool of 1000 stolen passports, with a system that's only 99% effective at maching a random photo, I think they could do much better at finding a person (perhaps with some surgical alterations) that fits in that 1%.
The process eliminates the need for an airline employee to manually check every boarding pass and passport while boarding a plane.
So at least they are clear that this is a cost-saving method for airlines, it has nothing to do with speeding boarding or making boarding more secure.
This spring, Lufthansa announced that it boarded an A380 with over 350 passengers at LAX in less than 20 minutes—less than half of their normal time—using self-boarding gates linked to CBP’s facial-enabled traveler verification service,” McAleenan said. “No more fumbling with your boarding pass while you have two carry-ons, maybe a kid; no more trying to find your QR code or trying to refresh your screen.
Oh wait, I guess it is about speeding boarding... but is boarding pass scanning really what slows boarding? I always seem to get backed up in the line at the plane door, waiting for everyone to stow their carryons and sit down. Most busy flights have two agents scanning and most people who have flown more than once scan their pass/phone quickly.... I'm surprised it's any faster getting people to stand in the right spot and stand still for a photo.
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#10> For Thea Ottersen of Norway, privacy was not a major concern, as the general procedure doesn’t differ much from what she has come to expect from American airport security. Conditioning works.
I wouldn't be too cynical. "privacy was not a major concern" might just mean that she still thinks it's a privacy violation, but it's not such a big violation to warrant boycotting trips to the US. That is, she knows she's sacrificing privacy to visit the US and has already accepted it. Consider an alternative story:
headline: "china blocks all access to all foreign media websites"
> For John Smith of United States, censorship was not a major concern, as the practice doesn’t differ much from what she has come to expect from Chinese censorship.
Doesn't mean that the same John Smith isn't going to be up in arms if the FCC starts censoring news websites in the US.