Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by dleskov » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 11:24 AM UTC

Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries
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Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by rooam-dev » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:28 PM UTC

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by floatboth » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:29 PM UTC

rooam-dev wrote: post #2

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

Well, it's a language created by an IDE company…

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by floatboth » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:30 PM UTC

Not to be confused with https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-native — this is the Java version compiled with Excelsior JET, a proprietary AOT Java compiler thing.

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by rooam-dev » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:34 PM UTC

floatboth wrote: post #3

rooam-dev wrote: post #2

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

Well, it's a language created by an IDE company…

Yeah. It used to be "choose IDE that supports your language", now it will be "choose a language that is supported by your IDE".

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by kevinherron » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:35 PM UTC

rooam-dev wrote: post #2

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

I believe those fixes are for the IDE plugin they release in parallel with every Kotlin release.

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by giancarlostoro » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:35 PM UTC

rooam-dev wrote: post #5

floatboth wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's a language created by an IDE company…

Yeah. It used to be "choose IDE that supports your language", now it will be "choose a language that is supported by your IDE".

I mean it's sorta in the name "Integrated"

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by vorg » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:43 PM UTC

floatboth wrote: post #3

rooam-dev wrote: post #2

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

Well, it's a language created by an IDE company…

The dividing line between what's a language and what's the IDE is fairly arbitrary. E.g. a language could conceivably come with a tool chain that includes CLI-driven refactoring, and an "IDE" would only need to be a graphical interface calling it.

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by skocznymroczny » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 12:57 PM UTC

rooam-dev wrote: post #2

Is it just me or it's strange that there are so many IDE related fixes in a programming language release?

I think it's a symptom of times changing. People don't want to code in vi/nano anymore. A general purpose language launching today is expected to have a good support in an IDE. At least autocompletion, support for building and debugging, refactoring if possible. Also people prefer to have a one well working IDE plugin than several half-baked ones that don't offer much more than syntax highlighting. That's why IDE plugins are becoming important part of language development, either through IDE specific plugins like IntelliJ ones or more generic solutions such as language servers.

Re: Kotlin 1.2.60 comes with native compiler binaries

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Post by maaaats » Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 1:03 PM UTC

floatboth wrote: post #4

Not to be confused with https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-native — this is the Java version compiled with Excelsior JET, a proprietary AOT Java compiler thing.

So it's the compiler that's native, not the output. Or?