I don't trust Signal

I trust it more than unencrypted SMS or Facebook Messenger.

I trust it less than p2p chat over an encrypted network I control with layered defense in depth.

Security is not a boolean.

Telegram doesn't use end-to-end encryption by default and likely never will. Paul Durov has been quite hostile against that feature in the past. So yes, choose Signal over Telegram.

I find that instead of trying to convince friends/family to use Signal I just tell them "use Signal as your default SMS app" or install it myself for them. This tactic worked well in the Internet Explorer/Firefox and then Chrome transitions, so I don't see why it can't work again.

Then whenever I will be chatting with them, it won't matter if they try to send me a SMS, as long as I use Signal, their messages will be encrypted, as they will be data messages. I wouldn't trust the default SMS app/Android Messages not to steal your SMS texts anyway, especially on Chinese phones.

Also, I can't wait until the Matrix-based Riot gets its redesign:

https://medium.com/@RiotChat/a-sneak-peek-at-a-whole-new-rio...

What's "secure" without stating your threat model?

I think no, because I saw many voices tell they don't trust Telegram either. So maybe matrix IM is the compromise.

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