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Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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I'm absolutely certain with governments moving this slow right now, making small goals for 2050, getting courted by lobbies to not push through massive restrictions, probably most of these very dark predictions will come true. I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society, overruling politicians or outright controlling them directly. We are probably beyond any point of return. The people that yearn for the next payday will get their money and probably will be able to save themselves in an underground bunker or a suite in the mountains, while the rest of the poor and middle class burn in the ashes they leave behind.

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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I'm absolutely certain with governments moving this slow right now, making small goals for 2050, getting courted by lobbies to not push through massive restrictions, probably most of these very dark predictions will come true. I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society, overruling politicians or outright controlling them directly. We are probably beyond any point of return. T…

> I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society

Defenestrations, torches and pitchforks have been traditional solutions to rulers not acting in the interest of the populace.

Of course more peaceful means are preferable but the option needs to be kept on the table to remember why we have and want democratic solutions in the first place.

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I don't know, I've seen what temperatures have been in the past decade in Europe and I can tell that it doesn't get any hotter, in fact, it could be getting colder. Can anyone show some statistics supporting the global warming?

Edit: I know how to google myself but I am asking people to get a little more involved and not lay out facts out of memory. I thought I could make a good discussion on the topic but kept getting hostility for some reason.

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post #3

I'm absolutely certain with governments moving this slow right now, making small goals for 2050, getting courted by lobbies to not push through massive restrictions, probably most of these very dark predictions will come true. I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society, overruling politicians or outright controlling them directly. We are probably beyond any point of return. T…

> I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society Defenestrations, torches and pitchforks have been traditional solutions to rulers not acting in the interest of the populace. Of course more peaceful means are preferable but the option needs to be kept on the table to remember why we have and want democratic solutions in the first place.

Current leading governments are too corrupt to be able to change anything by peaceful talks

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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I'm absolutely certain with governments moving this slow right now, making small goals for 2050, getting courted by lobbies to not push through massive restrictions, probably most of these very dark predictions will come true. I, as a concerned citizen can do nothing against the corporations ruling our society, overruling politicians or outright controlling them directly. We are probably beyond any point of return. T…

You as a concerned citizen can do plenty on your own. Most people could cut down their emissions and other environmental impacts by 50% easily if they really cared.

The problem is that most people don't really care that much when push comes to shove, and in aggregate this is the reason for why we're moving so slowly on climate change.

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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post #5

I don't know, I've seen what temperatures have been in the past decade in Europe and I can tell that it doesn't get any hotter, in fact, it could be getting colder. Can anyone show some statistics supporting the global warming? Edit: I know how to google myself but I am asking people to get a little more involved and not lay out facts out of memory. I thought I could make a good discussion on the topic but kept getti…

https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/indicators/global-an...

> According to different observational records of global average annual near-surface (land and ocean) temperature, the last decade (2008–2017) was 0.89 °C to 0.93 °C warmer than the pre-industrial average, which makes it the warmest decade on record. Of the 17 warmest years on record, 16 have occurred since 2000. The year 2017 was one of the world’s three warmest years on record together with the years 2016 and 2015.

> The average annual temperature for the European land area for the last decade (2008–2017) was between 1.6 °C and 1.7 °C above the pre-industrial level, which makes it the warmest decade on record. In Europe, 2017 was colder than the previous 3 years.

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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I don't know, I've seen what temperatures have been in the past decade in Europe and I can tell that it doesn't get any hotter, in fact, it could be getting colder. Can anyone show some statistics supporting the global warming? Edit: I know how to google myself but I am asking people to get a little more involved and not lay out facts out of memory. I thought I could make a good discussion on the topic but kept getti…

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