Emacs and TLS

#1

Post by signa11 » Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 3:42 PM UTC

Re: Emacs and TLS

#2

Post by waynecochran » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:16 AM UTC

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by __david__ » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:22 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

Many places. Emacs has a built-in web browser, IMAP client, etc. It also has a package manager that can download packages over https.

Re: Emacs and TLS

#4

Post by sbjs » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:41 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

The old joke goes, Emacs is a great OS, if only it had a decent text editor!

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by testcross » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:43 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

Most common use case for people using only the text editor part is probably the package manager downloading files in clear text.

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by eftychis » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:46 AM UTC

sbjs wrote: post #4

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

The old joke goes, Emacs is a great OS, if only it had a decent text editor!

You beat me to the punchline. Yes, you can do pretty much anything. (Edit: I guess in the spirit of the joke anything besides writing lol. Shameless plug: I use emacs.)

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by eftychis » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:48 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

There are people running and working with emacs' shell, read the news, rss, stock market, emails, calendar etc. See the OS punchline below. Thus beyond basic operations of emacs like package management that require a secure connection you have a user's day to day activity.

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by phyzome » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:57 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

You answered it yourself: When you browse the web and read email.

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by waynecochran » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 2:58 AM UTC

phyzome wrote: post #8

waynecochran wrote: post #2

I am missing something here. Emacs is a text/programmer's editor (I know you browse the web, read email, talk to eliza, etc...), but where is TLS being used exactly? (BTW, I have been using emacs since at least the early 90's, but never did anything requiring TLS).

You answered it yourself: When you browse the web and read email.

Yes, but who actually does that?

Re: Emacs and TLS

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Post by Spivak » Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 3:15 AM UTC

waynecochran wrote: post #9

phyzome wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You answered it yourself: When you browse the web and read email.

Yes, but who actually does that?

There are tons of people who read email in Emacs, mu4e is great. Browsing the web is probably less common.