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Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

#1
Over mobile network (4G) I am unable to open duckduckgo from time to time and google is as usual very fast. I checked duckduckgo is not down and on my desktop duckduckgo works fine. I was thinking if there is any priority assigned to google requests by my network carrier and intentionally blocking duckduckgo. Using firefox over android, Pakistan

Re: Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

#2
I just tested this myself and, while google loads its DOM content almost twice as fast as duckduckgo for me (1.2s vs 0.7s), that's still way within a reasonable time for a webpage. For comparison, youtube took me 3.5 seconds to load the DOM content.

That said, it may still be some difference like browser caching, or maybe android even does that. My tests were on a Windows PC using chrome.

Re: Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

#3

I just tested this myself and, while google loads its DOM content almost twice as fast as duckduckgo for me (1.2s vs 0.7s), that's still way within a reasonable time for a webpage. For comparison, youtube took me 3.5 seconds to load the DOM content. That said, it may still be some difference like browser caching, or maybe android even does that. My tests were on a Windows PC using chrome.

I was thinking if there is intentional slow-down by carrier, as it takes sometimes a minute to open a web page ( over mobile) while google works fine

Re: Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

#4
I would guess more of Google's landing page is cached, and it's a smaller page.

I'm getting Google in 0.5-3 secounds, DuckDuckGo in 3-4 secounds, StartPage in 2 secounds. USA 4G 3:30AM

On another note, both Google and DuckDuckGo seem to link directly to search results but actually redirect your broswer to capture the link you clicked. StartPage links directly to search results.

I've asked DuckDuckGo about this and they can't provide a sastifactory answer. Maybe someone could clue me in why that redirect is nessicary, but until then I consider them untrustworthy.

Re: Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

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post #4

I would guess more of Google's landing page is cached, and it's a smaller page. I'm getting Google in 0.5-3 secounds, DuckDuckGo in 3-4 secounds, StartPage in 2 secounds. USA 4G 3:30AM On another note, both Google and DuckDuckGo seem to link directly to search results but actually redirect your broswer to capture the link you clicked. StartPage links directly to search results. I've asked DuckDuckGo about this and th…

Isn’t it to mask the search terms that you used? If you go directly to the page the current url including the query would become the referrer

Re: Ask HN: Any obvious reason for duckduckgo vs. Google speed difference on mobile?

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post #5

I also noticed this and stopped using DDG because of it. My assumption was just that scaling is hard and DDG wasn't as good at it as Google is.

Google has more POPs, search clusters everywhere, etc. I was going to say that they also use QUIC, but the poster mentions using Firefox, which I don't think supports it yet.
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