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Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.

Search and seizure does seem like a bizarre way of being a 'witness'. I suppose this is a response to Zwiebelfreunde being expected to not reveal the information they seek.

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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Tails is a Debian Live CD that automatically proxies everything through Tor.

AfD is a group that is essentially the Nazi Party 2.0.

The German police raided the host of Torservers.net in an effort to hunt down people protesting against AfD, and it seems to have been conducted as some sort of scare tactic (which would be unfortunate if Germany is actually helping a modern Nazi party).

More information here: https://blog.torservers.net/20180704/coordinated-raids-of-zw...

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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Tails is a Debian Live CD that automatically proxies everything through Tor. AfD is a group that is essentially the Nazi Party 2.0. The German police raided the host of Torservers.net in an effort to hunt down people protesting against AfD, and it seems to have been conducted as some sort of scare tactic (which would be unfortunate if Germany is actually helping a modern Nazi party). More information here: https://bl…

>>which would be unfortunate if Germany is actually helping a modern Nazi party

Need to define "protest". Maybe they called for Neo-Nazis to be killed or hurt. In that case, the state has the monopoly of violence.

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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Tails is a Debian Live CD that automatically proxies everything through Tor. AfD is a group that is essentially the Nazi Party 2.0. The German police raided the host of Torservers.net in an effort to hunt down people protesting against AfD, and it seems to have been conducted as some sort of scare tactic (which would be unfortunate if Germany is actually helping a modern Nazi party). More information here: https://bl…

Imo stating "AfD is Nazi party 2.0" is very oversimplified. I agree there are some Nazi supporters there but most are people with anti illegal immigration views which doesn't mean they are Nazis.

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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So, in an effort to fight off/investigate a “far right” political organization (it doesn’t matter whether they are or aren’t), the police are using some scary tactics that one might expect from an extreme political party in power. Great work there. Way to be the change you want to see in the world.

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.

I disagree with your comparison to criminals. Gathering evidence for a case can be done at any place relevant to a case. It is sad to see that they confiscated materials owned by a witness, but within the bounds of "reason": they are a related party in said case.

Please note: I do still, from what I read here, find this excessive use of power. A normal warrant with a request for data could very well have been enough, but that's guessing what kind of evidence the police expected to find.

Re: Police raid at Zwiebelfreunde: Donor data compromised

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> They are not accused of a crime but considered to be witnesses in a case... Wow, so the witnesses are treated like criminals now.

Search and seizure does seem like a bizarre way of being a 'witness'. I suppose this is a response to Zwiebelfreunde being expected to not reveal the information they seek.

Zwiebelfreunde said, the police did not ask for anything before.
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