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New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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> In a previous statement, WikiLeaks said the source of the damaging disclosure had hoped to “initiate a public debate about the security, creation, use, proliferation and democratic control of cyberweapons.”

That didn't really work out... I wonder if that was the real motivation; it seems a little naive.

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While I won't justify anything this person allegedly did.. it seems open to speculation whether the child pornography stuff was actually legitimate, or some sort of targeted attack. (whether to destroy his character/career or keep him under judicial watch / within the country)

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Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography

Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

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post #4

While I won't justify anything this person allegedly did.. it seems open to speculation whether the child pornography stuff was actually legitimate, or some sort of targeted attack. (whether to destroy his character/career or keep him under judicial watch / within the country)

I read the IRC logs, and I'm skeptical that anyone not deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene could fake them.

It's not impossible, but it was pretty convincing to me.

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"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime."

Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

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"Government investigators suspect that he provided WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization, with a stolen archive of documents detailing the C.I.A.’s hacking operations, but they had not initially charged him in that crime." Wikileaks is a news organization, not an anti-secrecy organization who's First Amendment Right to Freedom of the Press has been illegally infringed upon by the US Government.

Or option C: a propaganda arm of the Russian Government.

EDIT: downvoters aren't offering a response, so I'll just hope or assume that they want evidence:

[1] https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/07/putin-dismisses...

[3] http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.771716

[4] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analyti...

[5] https://sunlightfoundation.com/2016/07/28/on-weaponized-tran...

[6] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec...

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> Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography.

The fact that they found child porn on his computer is the scariest part. Almost any technical person could frame almost anyone else with CP possession. It's just a matter of putting some files on a computer and/or faking some logs, browser history, etc.

It would be incredibly trivial for the CIA to put CP on his computer and then use that as a method of getting him into custody. A rogue agent could do it without anyone else knowing.

The frightening aspect of CP possession is that there's basically no one willing to even hear out a person charged with the crime. It's the perfect thing to frame someone with precisely because it's so revolting and hard to disprove.

CP possession laws should be changed to put much more onus on the state. It possibly should not even be a felony to merely posses simply because of how hard it is to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Production of CP is clearly the main problem and far easier to be confident in prosecuting.

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post #4

While I won't justify anything this person allegedly did.. it seems open to speculation whether the child pornography stuff was actually legitimate, or some sort of targeted attack. (whether to destroy his character/career or keep him under judicial watch / within the country)

The feds are notorious for doing stuff like that. Just look at how they were trying to bag assange with rape charges back when he was on the run. Also look at how they prosecute bigger criminals. They dont go after them for smuggling or drug dealing. It is always tax fraud, wire fraud etc. They dont care what crime you committed as long as they get the person behind bars.
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