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Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, leaves Oracle

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Re: Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, leaves Oracle

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Post by sgt »

rbanffy wrote: post #4

That's too bad. ZFS (along with crossbow) is one of the best things in Solaris/OpenSolaris. I was about to say Oracle has a serious human resources problem, but I noticed that, maybe, the problem is in calling humans "resources".

Agreed. To Oracle, these are just pawns in a game. The winner of the game (which is always Oracle) gets to fund Larry's next yacht.

Re: Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, leaves Oracle

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Post by lsc »

rbanffy wrote: post #4

That's too bad. ZFS (along with crossbow) is one of the best things in Solaris/OpenSolaris. I was about to say Oracle has a serious human resources problem, but I noticed that, maybe, the problem is in calling humans "resources".

I don't think that's it. Every corporation thinks of its employees in a dollars and cents kind of way.

The operative problem here seems to be that Oracle doesn't value senior technical resources as much as some other companies might, or as much as those resources are used to being valued (and really, few people react well to a cut in autonomy, pay or respect.) They aren't willing to invest what is required, probably in the non-monetary sense as much as the monetary sense, to keep the top talent that came with the Sun acquisition. Personally, I agree that this sounds like a mistake, but this sort of attitude is not new for Oracle, and eh, they've done okay so far, so what do I know?

Re: Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, leaves Oracle

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Post by melling »

etherael wrote: post #5

Did Oracle buy Sun to strip it and liquidate the intellectual assets? What's their plan here? It seems like they have zero interest in building the products.

Oracle is a consistently profitable company. They know how to run a business. They know what they're doing. If the old Sun and their culture wanted to survive, they needed to run a better business.

Re: Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, leaves Oracle

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Post by nailer »

lsc wrote: post #7
rbanffy wrote: post #4

That's too bad. ZFS (along with crossbow) is one of the best things in Solaris/OpenSolaris. I was about to say Oracle has a serious human resources problem, but I noticed that, maybe, the problem is in calling humans "resources".

I don't think that's it. Every corporation thinks of its employees in a dollars and cents kind of way. The operative problem here seems to be that Oracle doesn't value senior technical resources as much as some other companies might, or as much as those resources are used to being valued (and really, few people react well to a cut in autonomy, pay or respect.) They aren't willing to invest what is required, probably…

I agree re: your second point, but when I worked at IBM it was explicitly discouraged to use the term 'resources' to refer to people.

Personally I find the people that use this outdated term stop doing so when continually referred to as 'Outlook resources'.

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