Would that make everything twice better?
and increase positiveness?
Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
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Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#2Of course not "just like a success."
When you reach success you are done (for now), and can enjoy the momentary satisfaction of having manifested your intention.
When you fail, you get to learn, to introspect, to face your emotions and often your "shadow" -- all the education and patterning which make you flinch or love yourself less in the presence of mistakes/failure.
It's an invitation to learn to work with these, to learn new ways to approach the issue, to improvise, be creative, to grow, to improve and master yourself and the matter at hand.
Worth celebration, but very much not "just like success."
A third option, which anyone touched by stoicism or let's say vipassana would be aware of, is to be equally equaniminous to each.
Learn to reduce the amplitude of the hope and fear associated with each. This will give you access to calmer, steadier experience as you create, manifest, learn and grow.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#3Many of the most successful people I know acknowledge and celebrate their failures as the learning experiences they are. They believe that if you're not failing, you're not trying hard enough, and every single failure is an opportunity to do something better next time. I love this attitude.
I suspect that most people who do this also don't see "success" as a finite achievement - a thing to be reached, celebrated and completed. Success is a constantly moving target, and requires overcoming many small failures.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#4I've heard it said that success is its own reward, and I think that in some ways that can be true.
It's probably not a good idea to treat them the same, but maybe trying to celebrate the effort, not the outcome.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#5I saw that the whole thing was made up and that the game of success was just that, a game. I realized I could invent another game. I settled on a game called I am a contribution. Unlike success and failure, contribution has no other side... "How will I be a contribution today?" ...
Just look carefully at the cover of the box, and if the rules do not light up your life, put it away, take out another one you like better, and play the game wholeheartedly. Remember, it's all invented. - Ben Zander, The Art of Possibility
If you're willing to fail interestingly, you usually succeed interestingly. - Edward Albee
While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior. - Henry C. Link
Most people die of a kind of creeping common sense. They discover too late that the only things one never regrets are one's mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
Our business in this world is not to succeed, but to continue to fail, in good spirits. - R. L. Stevenson
We do not know to-day whether we are busy or idle. In times when we thought ourselves indolent, we have afterwards discovered, that much was accomplished, and much was begun in us. - Emerson
Hard Times. In this contradictory world of Truth the hard times come when the good times are in the world of commerce; namely, sleep, fulleating, plenty of money, care of it, and leisure; these are the hard times. Nothing is doing and we lose every day. - Emerson, journal
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#6This will be akin to the participation certificateband consolation prizw that are being handed out to every kid who participates in a race so that he doesn't feel bad. And my take will be firmly against this sort of infantilism.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#7It depends on what you mean by failure. If you build a MySpace/AOL/Netscape and 15 years later it "fails", most people will celebrate you. However if you spend three years in your garage building a CRM tool that never launches, that will be uninteresting to most and therefore not celebrated.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#8This will be akin to the participation certificateband consolation prizw that are being handed out to every kid who participates in a race so that he doesn't feel bad. And my take will be firmly against this sort of infantilism.
Well, I think every child deserves a prize just for participating.. It would make the contest/game of life a little kinder, if every person got at least a consolation prize for giving a good try.
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#9Usually, when you fail - there is no money left for any celebration. That's why i've am unable to throw parties when i fail. I would love to otherwise :)
Re: Ask HN: Should we start celebrating failure just like a success?
#10This will be akin to the participation certificateband consolation prizw that are being handed out to every kid who participates in a race so that he doesn't feel bad. And my take will be firmly against this sort of infantilism.
Many did not even participate, so they don't get any certificate. So its a perfectly good thing to give a participation certificate to those who are willing to join the game.
Everyone gets a participatory certificate and one person ended up becoming a winner. I don't think the winner knew upfront before the race that he would be the winner.