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Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case.

If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

???

GDPR doesn’t require that EU users get to use your service for free. If you want to do business in the EU, you have to comply with EU law. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t do business in the EU.

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

??? GDPR doesn’t require that EU users get to use your service for free. If you want to do business in the EU, you have to comply with EU law. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t do business in the EU.

Look at what this case is about, Facebook and Google are saying if you want to use our service you need to enable tracking otherwise don't use our service.

This lawsuit states that Facebook and Google are not legally allowed to deny service.

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

??? GDPR doesn’t require that EU users get to use your service for free. If you want to do business in the EU, you have to comply with EU law. If you don’t want to do that, then don’t do business in the EU.

Look at what this case is about, Facebook and Google are saying if you want to use our service you need to enable tracking otherwise don't use our service. This lawsuit states that Facebook and Google are not legally allowed to deny service.

I am not a lawyer, but it seems that the plaintiff is basically arguing that, according to GDPR, if you want to offer a service in the EU then you can’t just have users waive their rights under the GDPR. You could not offer a service in the EU, but if you do then you can’t just tell your users “if you want to use our service, then you agree that GDPR does not apply to us.”

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

Even if that was true the void will be filled with local competitors.

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

Even if that was true the void will be filled with local competitors.

If a venture is not profitable for Google why do you think it would be profitable for a bootstrapped EU competitor?

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So it seems like we will find out if GDPR means European users have a 'right' to use your service for free with this case. If the EU rules against Google and Facebook here I suspect the EU will become a digital wasteland. Companies like Google and Facebook wont leave but you will probably be charged for usage.

I would loooooooove for the choice to pay for usage

Re: Facebook and Google hit with $8.8B in lawsuits on day one of GDPR

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So for all those comments on how violations would slowly escalate based on complaints, only turning into huge fees when you blatently ignore all the warnings, in practice we learn that those tiers of escalation only apply to companies the EU likes, is that correct?

Because last time I checked, both companies at least made some effort, and as thus should get a last warning calling their bullshit before going full throttle into billion dollar fine territory, especially when the regulation has been in effect for less than one day. Otherwise I don't know why I should trust the bureaucracy not to max out a $20 million fine on my business when its discovered that I'm not in compliance on some edge case in this 80 page bill

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