I am leaving llvm
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I am leaving llvm
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#2This will happen more and more, though many will not be as open about their concerns, for fear of retaliation.
I grew up in a time and place where many took great steps to profess that they were the "good" people and to ensure that everyone knew that they appropriately despised the "bad" people (albeit with love). I will not be a part of a return to that.
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#3 The community change I cannot take is how the social injustice
movement has permeated it. When I joined llvm no one asked or cared
about my religion or political view. We all seemed committed to just
writing a good compiler framework.
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#4So that org doesn't want US white males, asians and indians (from India). Fine, if you are leftist this is expected of you today.
More interestingly, being a gay man doesn't qualify you (but being a trans-gender man does). So gay man are not considered worthy of special attention.
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#5Ridiculous. This is the kind of weak thinker who would have looked at Jim Crow's South and said it was egalitarian. Formal discrimination is not the same as concrete discrimination.
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#6These social justice warriors may seem well-meaning, but ultimately they are parasites. Their mission is never-ending and ultimately they overreach and this is the result.
I just want to work with smart people. I don't care what gender they associate themselves with, what color they are, whether there's an equal distribution of any of these characteristics in my department. I just want to do my job and learn from smart people. Why can't it be as simple as that?
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#7Ridiculous. This is the kind of weak thinker who would have looked at Jim Crow's South and said it was egalitarian. Formal discrimination is not the same as concrete discrimination.
You call it ridiculous, I see it as the beginning of a movement to make open source project contributions invite only.
The drive for “inclusion” is turning cancerous. “Social justice bikeshedding”. I’m pro social tolerance, but it’s coming off the rails in the tech world, with active discrimination explained away as progress.
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#8Christ, what an asshole
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#9The community change I cannot take is how the social injustice movement has permeated it. When I joined llvm no one asked or cared about my religion or political view. We all seemed committed to just writing a good compiler framework. This makes me sad.
This comment made me think that someone had disparaged them for their political beliefs or religion, but after reading that doesn't seem to have happened, unless they left it out for some reason, but that would be odd. In fact, if I understand the letter correctly, the straw that broke OP's back was this:
> https://www.outreachy.org/apply/eligibility/
To which I say... really? Ok, that's too bad that you don't want to be a contributor anymore because there is a diversity scholarship... somehow I don't see that as a long term problem for LLVM though.
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#10Gotta love how clattner shuts down the thread. He's a nice guy but he does have a strong authoritarian side that gets triggered by the typical SJW causes (even in small talk about silly things).