Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
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Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
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Re: Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
#2Looks cool, and I guess I'm old and illogical - but I miss the 'old days' when you could just buy things without teasers, pre-announcements, order windows, etc.
I doesn't build excitement in my case, more that I forget about it and move on.
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#3At first glance it looked like the motion control was gamified with a driving game. Part of me wishes that was the case, the other part of is horrified of the thought of carpenters messing around with cloud enabled gameboys on their tools.
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#4Brilliant idea, outsource to the human the low-precision positioning task and get rid of the workpiece fixtures for massive price reduction.
Now someone needs to build the equivalent for 3-5 axis, maybe with a free movable support arm since it might be too heavy to hold just with hands.
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#5Looks cool, and I guess I'm old and illogical - but I miss the 'old days' when you could just buy things without teasers, pre-announcements, order windows, etc. I doesn't build excitement in my case, more that I forget about it and move on.
I feel you, but also having been on the other side of things (worked for a hardware startup in the AR space), whoo boy is hardware hard.
From the side of the manufacturer, all the things you mentioned are a form of risk mitigation and demand forecasting. It's likely a fatal, company ending mistake to build 5x too many in your initial run.
So, while I'm not a huge fan of such activities, I am a HUGE fan of the devices and creativity they enable as otherwise we just wouldn't see this kind of stuff.
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#6I tried one of these 2-3 years ago and briefly talked to one of the founders. It's a really cool tool, and surprisingly fun to use. I was immediately smitten and asked "how much?" The price he told me then was half the price they're advertising now, and I still balked. Admittedly I don't know the market for carpentry, but it seems like a niche product for professionals or rich hobbyists. That said though, I'd still love to have one.
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#7Looks cool, and I guess I'm old and illogical - but I miss the 'old days' when you could just buy things without teasers, pre-announcements, order windows, etc. I doesn't build excitement in my case, more that I forget about it and move on.
I feel you, but also having been on the other side of things (worked for a hardware startup in the AR space), whoo boy is hardware hard. From the side of the manufacturer, all the things you mentioned are a form of risk mitigation and demand forecasting. It's likely a fatal, company ending mistake to build 5x too many in your initial run. So, while I'm not a huge fan of such activities, I am a HUGE fan of the devices…
Totally agree, more just commenting the large number of products I probably would've bought on sight had they been available, but instead are forgotten or in some old bookmark somewhere due to being unavailable.
Re: Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
#8I tried one of these 2-3 years ago and briefly talked to one of the founders. It's a really cool tool, and surprisingly fun to use. I was immediately smitten and asked "how much?" The price he told me then was half the price they're advertising now, and I still balked. Admittedly I don't know the market for carpentry, but it seems like a niche product for professionals or rich hobbyists. That said though, I'd still l…
What price are they advertising now? I can’t find it on the linked page.
Re: Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
#9I tried one of these 2-3 years ago and briefly talked to one of the founders. It's a really cool tool, and surprisingly fun to use. I was immediately smitten and asked "how much?" The price he told me then was half the price they're advertising now, and I still balked. Admittedly I don't know the market for carpentry, but it seems like a niche product for professionals or rich hobbyists. That said though, I'd still l…
What price are they advertising now? I can’t find it on the linked page.
$2400 is the expected retail price.
https://www.popularwoodworking.com/cnc/hands-shaper-origin-e...
Re: Shaper Origin: Hand-Held CNC Machine
#10Brilliant idea, outsource to the human the low-precision positioning task and get rid of the workpiece fixtures for massive price reduction. Now someone needs to build the equivalent for 3-5 axis, maybe with a free movable support arm since it might be too heavy to hold just with hands.
Honestly,I wonder if this concept isn't better suited for welding robots and plasma cutters. It seems ideally suited for those tools. You need precise control of a tool position, and the reason,they're not done by hand more right now is that access to the workpiece and clamping it in place are a huge pain.
A big problem with handheld CNC is that cutting many materials you'd want to cut requires precise control of your speed, and also requires rather large amounts of force and rigidity. CNC in wood or plastic is pretty easy, but steel is hugely more difficult. There's a reason traditional mills are made with thousands of pounds of cast steel, and it's not to make it hard for hobbyists to enter,
I wonder if a 3-5 axis might be better done by using servo-actuated brakes to constrain your motion to a desired direction and speed. Though I remain skeptical that the problem with CNC is the expense of long axes. You pay for the power, not length - a 30" ballscrew actuator costs maybe 2x as much as a 3".