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What Your Boss Doesn’t Want You to Know About Negotiation

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You have no idea what the other person wants, and don’t think that matters anyway

This point leaves me agog. If this is at all an accurate description of how many people think... I guess that would explain a lot of lousy stuff out in the world.

You want to win the argument more than achieving your goal.

An awful lot of people operate this way. I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity.

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You have no idea what the other person wants, and don’t think that matters anyway This point leaves me agog. If this is at all an accurate description of how many people think... I guess that would explain a lot of lousy stuff out in the world. You want to win the argument more than achieving your goal. An awful lot of people operate this way. I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity.

> I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity.

Is it? In my experience people, especially men, get worse when they get older. Especially between 45 and 70 this seems to be strong; they are (always) right and winning the acknowledgement of that being right is more important than anything else. Even if it destroys companies, money, respect for them or people in the process of winning, completely and irrationally ignoring the goal of the discussion/argument.

Still might be immature, but then what is that exactly? I know people from all walks of life who have this issue. Maybe almost no-one grows up?

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You have no idea what the other person wants, and don’t think that matters anyway This point leaves me agog. If this is at all an accurate description of how many people think... I guess that would explain a lot of lousy stuff out in the world. You want to win the argument more than achieving your goal. An awful lot of people operate this way. I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity.

> I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity. Is it? In my experience people, especially men, get worse when they get older. Especially between 45 and 70 this seems to be strong; they are (always) right and winning the acknowledgement of that being right is more important than anything else. Even if it destroys companies, money, respect for them or people in the process of winning, completely and irrationally ignoring…

Paradoxically, emotional growth is held back by one's strengths, not their weaknesses.

Lots of bright students have zero patience and have never learned how to cope with failure. Perhaps typically privileged people, as many men are, don't deal well with things like their growing physical frailty as they age and react to that by refusing to acknowledge any weaknesses in other areas, such as their knowledge base or logic.

Re: What Your Boss Doesn’t Want You to Know About Negotiation

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Reminds me a lot of the book Never Split the Difference. If you enjoyed this post, I highly recommend that book. It's fantastic and really opened my eyes to all the areas I could improve my ability to relate to other people and negotiate more effectively.

Can you share any insights?

Re: What Your Boss Doesn’t Want You to Know About Negotiation

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post #6

You have no idea what the other person wants, and don’t think that matters anyway This point leaves me agog. If this is at all an accurate description of how many people think... I guess that would explain a lot of lousy stuff out in the world. You want to win the argument more than achieving your goal. An awful lot of people operate this way. I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity.

> I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity. Is it? In my experience people, especially men, get worse when they get older. Especially between 45 and 70 this seems to be strong; they are (always) right and winning the acknowledgement of that being right is more important than anything else. Even if it destroys companies, money, respect for them or people in the process of winning, completely and irrationally ignoring…

Agreed: “that almost no-one grows up.” And is “immature”. Just because that has become the norm doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call a spade a spade. How else can we collectively, as a culture, identify where we lack and then to choose to grow?

Re: What Your Boss Doesn’t Want You to Know About Negotiation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I tend to view it as a mark of immaturity. Is it? In my experience people, especially men, get worse when they get older. Especially between 45 and 70 this seems to be strong; they are (always) right and winning the acknowledgement of that being right is more important than anything else. Even if it destroys companies, money, respect for them or people in the process of winning, completely and irrationally ignoring…

Paradoxically, emotional growth is held back by one's strengths, not their weaknesses. Lots of bright students have zero patience and have never learned how to cope with failure. Perhaps typically privileged people, as many men are, don't deal well with things like their growing physical frailty as they age and react to that by refusing to acknowledge any weaknesses in other areas, such as their knowledge base or log…

I love how you make this a gendered issue. Well done, identity politician.
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