Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
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Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
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Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#21. The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users.
2. There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability in these areas. Distributed systems are typically open source, they run on multiple servers by different owners, this leads to zero accountability.
3. GDPR compliance about deleting data is almost impossible in a distributed system.
4. Some of the problems with Facebook are more about usability and clarifying how things work to users. For instance the scandal with people giving away access to their private messages. Open source software and distributed software tends to be much harder to use.
5. Any future concern/issue will be much harder to resolve if there are thousands of different instance running decentralized social networks.
6. Using AI to detect abusive content or spot fake news is much harder if you only have a subset of the data. So it becomes harder to address those concerns in a distributed setting.
So while I think this stuff is awesome from a tech perspective, in many ways it just makes these problems harder to solve.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#3The idea that centralized storage is the problem masks the actual concern. There is nothing inherently wrong with centrally stored data. There is a problem is when it is locked down by a 3rd party, and/or you don't control how it is used.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#4I think it's fascinating to see distributed social networks from a tech perspective. From what I've seen so far they exacerbate the problems that Facebook has been seeing so much backlash against. 1. The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. 2. There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability…
Google and others operating a crawler would have the same data as FB has today.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#5What's new/different here over this and other efforts?
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#6I think it's fascinating to see distributed social networks from a tech perspective. From what I've seen so far they exacerbate the problems that Facebook has been seeing so much backlash against. 1. The whole Cambridge Analytica issue was caused by APIs that are too open. For distributed systems there are more ways to exploit the APIs and gather data on users. 2. There is a clear issue with Facebook's accountability…
Although I do agree on the fake news point you make.
Edit: It seems that scuttlebutt does support optional end-to-end encryption: https://github.com/ssbc/secure-scuttlebutt#security-properti...
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#7Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#8It isn't an alternative to Facebook unless my grandma can use it, and she couldn't set this up for herself. The idea that centralized storage is the problem masks the actual concern. There is nothing inherently wrong with centrally stored data. There is a problem is when it is locked down by a 3rd party, and/or you don't control how it is used.
I'd argue that a 3rd party having the personal details and communication logs of 2 billion people is a massive problem. Privacy, governmental data requests, accidental information leakages, profiling, job applicant scrutiny, fake news, spam, data misuse by employees etc. Or even worse, in times of war.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#9This is such a cool thing in my eyes for parts of the world with little / no internet access. The creator of the project (AFAIK) sails around the world and, again, has little internet access. this allows him to keep people updated when he eventually does find internet.
Re: Scuttlebutt, a Decentralized Alternative to Facebook
#10Like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1O_gmPneI
Yes that’s my project. Would love to get feedback.
(The things I mentioned above are actually social things, the main thing that distinguishes them is that they are taking place in the future and group collaboration online is always leading to a goal. Anything that doesn’t satisfy those two criteria is more about socializing online than offline.)