Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
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Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
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Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#2First, this is somewhat ambitious...
Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#3First, this is somewhat ambitious... Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?
1. You got to start somewhere.
2. Data is valuable.
3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#4First, this is somewhat ambitious... Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?
1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.
> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.
Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.
> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?
I am pretty sure that they tried and had some effect. It is hard to estimate the magnitude of the effect and probably impossible to prove if they managed to sway the elections.
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?
I am pretty sure that they tried and had some effect. It is hard to estimate the magnitude of the effect and probably impossible to prove if they managed to sway the elections.
Then why did you say it affected the election?
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.
> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?
There were billions spent on ads, so the effect is pretty questionable given how small a piece of that they were and the overall tactics have been in use for at least a decade now.
That said, there's plenty to be mad about, but it's more in how Facebook was sharing everything for you (part of the reason I never made an account there) and less with the wranglings over what a ToS violation means on top of that.
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?
I am pretty sure that they tried and had some effect. It is hard to estimate the magnitude of the effect and probably impossible to prove if they managed to sway the elections.
It's kind of a ridiculous statement. If I put out a commercial targeting certain areas that's what we'd call 'affecting the vote' just as well.
Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers
#9First, this is somewhat ambitious... Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?
> how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?
That's exactly what it is. When a government's filled with extremists, bet on the extreme.
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