NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
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Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#2I respect the NTSB, but I do not like institutional secrecy aspects to try to muzzle Tesla - facts like this can help people from placing excessive reliability on self driving abilities of Tesla's autopilot - as long as personal privacy is respected.
After all, calling it an autopilot is intrinsically wrong - as Tesla repeatedly asserts.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#3Funny, the article says several times that the NTSB is unhappy with Tesla's release of information, but it never says why. It's not clear how it can interfere with the investigation. Maybe they just want to control the narrative? But that is no part of their function. Sorry if you're unhappy about Tesla's disclosures guys, but why, and why should we care?
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#4I respect the NTSB, but I do not like institutional secrecy aspects to try to muzzle Tesla - facts like this can help people from placing excessive reliability on self driving abilities of Tesla's autopilot - as long as personal privacy is respected. After all, calling it an autopilot is intrinsically wrong - as Tesla repeatedly asserts.
Is it institutional secrecy or is it disapproval of unilateral disclosure of only a sub-set of elements of an ongoing inquest?
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#5It’s early, but it seems likely there was an issue with Autopilot that contributed to this crash. To make matters worse, the owner apparently complained about errant behavior on that section of road. Why did he continue to use it without paying attention and why didn’t Telsa act much earlier?
It seems the local government or highway agency also neglected their duty to maintain the highway safety barrier, a shockingly regular occurrence where I live as well. I’ve wondered how often someone is injured because they failed to repair a barrier for several months.
It appears all the pieces fell into place at the right time and this man unfortunately lost his life.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#6I respect the NTSB, but I do not like institutional secrecy aspects to try to muzzle Tesla - facts like this can help people from placing excessive reliability on self driving abilities of Tesla's autopilot - as long as personal privacy is respected. After all, calling it an autopilot is intrinsically wrong - as Tesla repeatedly asserts.
Is it institutional secrecy or is it disapproval of unilateral disclosure of only a sub-set of elements of an ongoing inquest?
What is the distinction between the two that changes the justification? I see those things as part of each other, as in institutional secrecy is bred from ongoing inquests in perpetuity.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#7I respect the NTSB, but I do not like institutional secrecy aspects to try to muzzle Tesla - facts like this can help people from placing excessive reliability on self driving abilities of Tesla's autopilot - as long as personal privacy is respected. After all, calling it an autopilot is intrinsically wrong - as Tesla repeatedly asserts.
Is it institutional secrecy or is it disapproval of unilateral disclosure of only a sub-set of elements of an ongoing inquest?
What has Tesla concealed - as you intimate? What does the NTSB know they are not telling?
One hopes their report at the end will tell all.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#8Funny, the article says several times that the NTSB is unhappy with Tesla's release of information, but it never says why. It's not clear how it can interfere with the investigation. Maybe they just want to control the narrative? But that is no part of their function. Sorry if you're unhappy about Tesla's disclosures guys, but why, and why should we care?
If the NTSB was truly focused on providing investigations that minimize future risk (this is separate from blame, responsibility or punishment), then it's pretty clear that it should ideally be able to work in as neutral of an environment as possible.
Tesla is also clearly trying to control the narrative, and I think NTSB's usual MO is that there simply be as little narrative as possible until something as close to ground truth be determined and released. NTSB understands that releasing reports into a pre-charged environment leads to increased risk of backlask against NTSB, thus reducing its capacity to minimize future risk.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#9> “The driver had received several visual and one audible hands-on warning earlier in the drive"
This is completely irrelevant to the crash. Anyone who uses autopilot knows that throughout the drive even if you have two hands but don't apply enough pressure on the wheel, you will get a warning and you have to jiggle the wheel for it to recognize you're there.
Re: NTSB ‘unhappy’ with Tesla release of investigative information in fatal crash
#10Does autopilot lead to overconfident drivers?