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What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Re: What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Post by evanlivingston »

While I think there's a lot of interesting stuff in this essay, I can't help but notice everything in the article requires making new things.

I often wonder how much of climate change is driven by our need for new things, to consume.

I don't want to downplay the need for science in avoid climate disaster and I'm by no means a primitivist. but, and please inform me because I don't actually know:

How much could we curb climate change if no one

- produced and purchased a cell phone for a year

- manufactured a laptop for a year

- manufactured and launched rockets for a year

- manufactured an automobile for a year

- bought a smart watch

- bought a new sound system

- drove to work where possible

- went snowmobiling

- mowed their lawn

- bought new skis

- bought a brand new bike

- flew across the country for a meeting

and so on.

I know a lot of stuff would simply halt, but haven't we seen coordinated national efforts on similar scales during war-time? I'm not proposing this as a solution, but more as a thought experiment and I recognize as with any thought experiment there are problems with it. But the underlying questions remains: What can we do today if we got serious about the problem?

Re: What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Post by Pulcinella »

evanlivingston wrote: post #3

While I think there's a lot of interesting stuff in this essay, I can't help but notice everything in the article requires making new things . I often wonder how much of climate change is driven by our need for new things, to consume. I don't want to downplay the need for science in avoid climate disaster and I'm by no means a primitivist. but, and please inform me because I don't actually know: How much could we cur…

Bret does mention this at the top of the article.

This is aimed at people in the tech industry, and is more about what you can do with your career than at a hackathon. I’m not going to discuss policy and regulation, although they’re no less important than technological innovation. A good way to think about it, via Saul Griffith, is that it’s the role of technologists to create options for policy-makers.

It’s about technological options rather than policy or social ones. In regards to wartime type effort, there is that quote at the top of the article from Saul Griffith:

People say “this is a Manhattan Project, this an Apollo Project”. Sorry, those are science projects. Fusion is a Manhattan Project or an Apollo Project... The rest of this is more like retooling for World War II, except with everyone playing on the same team.

I do agree though. Being serious about climate change is much more “war” scale than “Apollo” or “Tesla” scale.

Re: What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Post by qplex »

xapata wrote: post #2

I periodically experience an existential crisis -- wondering why the hell I'm not spending all my time trying to alleviate climate change.

Hey, me too.

Sadly of late, I've felt a nihilistic indifference grow inside me.

Trying to infulence people on how they should do things is socially amazingly straining. The outcome at best is usually that people agree with you, but admit that they do not have any real motivation to do things differently.

If the cause and effect could be observed at a closer distance it might make all the difference.

Re: What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Post by 8bitsrule »

The author is certainly right that investing in a cinder makes no sense.

Getting companies/countries to let go of the philosophy of perpetual growth seems like a worthwhile goal. Seriously: what's 'enough'?

Such growth has been driven by energy that needs to be diverted to conservation/stabilization. Had we started a massive energy transformation plan a decade ago, we'd be halfway there. Instead the clouds on the far horizon draw nearer.

Re: What can a technologist do about climate change? (2015)

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Post by breakyerself »

We're there now! Bids for new renewable + storage in Colorado coming in lower than continued operation of an already existing coal fired power plant. Anyone invested in coal at this point in history is a crazy.

I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now renewables and storage are so cheap it starts to represent a new age of energy availability.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/1/16/1689559...

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