ISP Spying
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ISP Spying
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#2Is there a portal like-place to share our findings of ISPs generally in the world so that others can work together with better transparency?
I do data analytics and data engineering and a couple of months ago indirectly I have been contacted by an ISP in Spain and they literally were collecting every bit of data that their customers were seeing on internet (websites, timestamps, how much data were transferred and etcetera with the user's id and basically in another table name and address). I was shocked how easy they were talking about it. I didn't accept but for sure someone has done it! I never heard the name of the ISP, I wish I didn't bark at them so fast and I could collect more information about them.
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#3well, who isn't? Even at the most basic level, my local ISP is injecting ads into browsers.
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#4I always assume that they might be. So I always use my own perimeter router/firewall running pfSense. Plus I use VPN services. And so my ISps don't end up seeing anything except encrypted streams. And have no visibility into my vLANs.
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#6I always assume that they might be. So I always use my own perimeter router/firewall running pfSense. Plus I use VPN services. And so my ISps don't end up seeing anything except encrypted streams. And have no visibility into my vLANs.
You're just paying some extra third-party that handles all your traffic now. What's to prevent them from doing the same? You're moving trust to another actor.
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#7That router looks like its control panel is hosted on an external server. Router control panels usually show what devices are connected. So for router control panel functionality, they need to have the router report all connected devices to the server. Obviously they should be doing this encrypted, not unecrypted.
But ignoring encryption, this is the price you pay for cloud management: the could knows your data.
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#8In the UK, they're legally required to spy on you (but not through your router).
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#9I always assume that they might be. So I always use my own perimeter router/firewall running pfSense. Plus I use VPN services. And so my ISps don't end up seeing anything except encrypted streams. And have no visibility into my vLANs.
You're just paying some extra third-party that handles all your traffic now. What's to prevent them from doing the same? You're moving trust to another actor.
It's easy to move your VPN to an arbitrary VPS anywhere in the world, but there's only a handful of residential ISPs available in any given area, and they are almost univerally scummy.
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#10I don't know if it's true, but I've heard that some ISPs route your entire traffic through their machines. They even have access to your IP packets. Very shady!