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Re: Save the CR100

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Context: the new firmware upgrade for Sonos speakers will drop support for the CR100 controller.

http://www.techradar.com/news/sonos-finally-kills-off-cr100-...

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I have to wonder why. Planned obsolescence is an obvious answer, but if the new "standard" methods for controlling the speakers are smartphones or Alexa, it doesn't seem like they gain much from the switch. Is the protocol used by the CR100 that much of a pain to keep supporting? It makes me wonder about their software development practices.

Re: Save the CR100

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The first effects of a world of end-to-end encrypted media streaming. You don’t own the content, you don’t own the hardware, you can’t play whatever you want, you just pay and go with whatever happens to be there. You can change channels like a Radio, that’s about it

Re: Save the CR100

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> due the age of the battery in the controller, it has the potential to overheat when left charging for extended periods of time

...uh, what? I assume I'm missing something here, because this doesn't make any sense. Can someone explain?

Re: Save the CR100

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> due the age of the battery in the controller, it has the potential to overheat when left charging for extended periods of time ...uh, what? I assume I'm missing something here, because this doesn't make any sense. Can someone explain?

It's pretty common. It never "finishes" charging, instead however many watts of the charger gets dumped as heat, indefinitely.

Re: Save the CR100

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post #5
post #4

> due the age of the battery in the controller, it has the potential to overheat when left charging for extended periods of time ...uh, what? I assume I'm missing something here, because this doesn't make any sense. Can someone explain?

It's pretty common. It never "finishes" charging, instead however many watts of the charger gets dumped as heat, indefinitely.

But this is why lithium ion batteries need special lithium ion charging circuitry in the first place... If you don't have this, the cells will happily take as much energy as you give them and then promptly catch fire.

It doesn't make sense to me that this would only now be a problem. Either the circuit was designed correctly, and this excuse is bullshit, or they should have issued a recall ten years ago.

Re: Save the CR100

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... and once again, Stallman (and the FSF) are proved right.

https://xkcd.com/743/

If you buy into a proprietary ecosystem, especially a DRM-encumbered one, and doubly-especially a streaming one, don't be surprised when the inevitable happens and your non-ownership of any part of the system bites you.

I speak from personal experience. I lost some of my small Kobo library when they dropped support for their Web reader, and I closed my account (no support for my everyday / work laptop).

Re: Save the CR100

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Context: the new firmware upgrade for Sonos speakers will drop support for the CR100 controller. http://www.techradar.com/news/sonos-finally-kills-off-cr100-... -- I have to wonder why. Planned obsolescence is an obvious answer, but if the new "standard" methods for controlling the speakers are smartphones or Alexa, it doesn't seem like they gain much from the switch. Is the protocol used by the CR100 that much of a…

They're also claiming in the forum thread it's because of battery issues (battery getting older, more at risk for device to malfunction, etc). Seems like a bad reason to brick a device (and was likely made up once it was decided not to support)

Re: Save the CR100

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post #3

The first effects of a world of end-to-end encrypted media streaming. You don’t own the content, you don’t own the hardware, you can’t play whatever you want, you just pay and go with whatever happens to be there. You can change channels like a Radio, that’s about it

Isn't that life anyway? We're only on earth for a short time. You can't take your music to the grave with you, so why not accept its never really yours anyway?

Re: Save the CR100

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post #3

The first effects of a world of end-to-end encrypted media streaming. You don’t own the content, you don’t own the hardware, you can’t play whatever you want, you just pay and go with whatever happens to be there. You can change channels like a Radio, that’s about it

I expect any and all features of my Sonos speakers to possibly stop working except the local music library. If they ever stop that, I and others will file class action lawsuits at the very least. When the dust finally settles, that will probably be the only service still working anyway in the not so distant future. It's sad that the commercial market cannot and will not create worthwhile music services that are worth paying for in the long term. If my favorite songs disappear from the online library every few months, why should I pay a monthly fee? This happens on every service and is a categorical failure of the system's only purpose, to keep my favorite songs available. I'll take my NAS over those systems any day.
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