Your recruiter is not your friend

#1

Post by JoshDoody » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 5:20 PM UTC

Your recruiter is not your friend
fearlesssalarynegotiation.com

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#2

Post by borski » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:01 PM UTC

The salary question is illegal now in California.

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#3

Post by jrs95 » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:02 PM UTC

I actually had a really positive experience with a recruiter. I had a relatively low salary and they negotiated twice what I was making before at my current position. And I don’t even have a degree.

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#4

Post by paulsutter » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:03 PM UTC

This is a lead gen website / SEO spam, exposed by this gem halfway down the page:

“I’m a salary negotiation expert. My goal is to maximize my clients’ salaries with simple, proven salary negotiation tactics.”

Which is hilarious really

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#5

Post by toomuchtodo » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:03 PM UTC

[mention of typo removed]

Incredibly good advice as usual. I used your information when negotiating for my current position (internal HR), and earn ~20% more than my colleagues because of said advice (our team shares our compensation info amongst ourselves).

EDIT: Also, fantastic use of the analogy to real estate agents. Highlights what happens when incentives aren't aligned.

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#6

Post by JoshDoody » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:03 PM UTC

borski wrote: post #2

The salary question is illegal now in California.

It’s true that the CURRENT salary question is illegal in a few states, but salary EXPECTATIONS are still fair game. So there’s still a lot of room to make a misstep, unfortunately.

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Post by JoshDoody » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #5

[mention of typo removed] Incredibly good advice as usual. I used your information when negotiating for my current position (internal HR), and earn ~20% more than my colleagues because of said advice (our team shares our compensation info amongst ourselves). EDIT: Also, fantastic use of the analogy to real estate agents. Highlights what happens when incentives aren't aligned.

Ah, thank you! Fixing that now. (And thanks for the kind words!) UPDATE: Fixed the typo. Thanks again for pointing that out.

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#8

Post by guitarbill » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

paulsutter wrote: post #4

This is a lead gen website / SEO spam, exposed by this gem halfway down the page: “I’m a salary negotiation expert. My goal is to maximize my clients’ salaries with simple, proven salary negotiation tactics.” Which is hilarious really

Is it hilarious? This kind of negotiation doesn't come easy to most of us, and it's taken me ages to learn by myself. I've probably lost out to a lot of salary just because I didn't know how to negotiate. If someone could have taught me that, I would have paid for it.

Also, the article is good by itself, no?

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#9

Post by JoshDoody » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:05 PM UTC

jrs95 wrote: post #3

I actually had a really positive experience with a recruiter. I had a relatively low salary and they negotiated twice what I was making before at my current position. And I don’t even have a degree.

This is great to hear! I wish your story were more common - I think everyone would be better off if it were.

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#10

Post by tinymollusk » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 6:06 PM UTC

paulsutter wrote: post #4

This is a lead gen website / SEO spam, exposed by this gem halfway down the page: “I’m a salary negotiation expert. My goal is to maximize my clients’ salaries with simple, proven salary negotiation tactics.” Which is hilarious really

I agree, especially given the length. Something about the tone seemed off as well -- here's the summary:

Recruiters typically receive a percentage of your salary as commission, but they also optimizing for "time it takes to make a placement".