Jack in the Box CEO reconsiders automation, kiosks

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Post by artsandsci » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 1:40 PM UTC

Jack in the Box CEO reconsiders automation, kiosks
businessinsider.com.au

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Post by samfisher83 » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:01 PM UTC

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there.

I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

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Post by elsurudo » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:07 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

Yeah, but each company just thinks in isolation. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma.

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Post by danielfoster » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:07 PM UTC

I'm curious if higher minimum wages in a small number of states will also impact jobs in low-wage states. I would imagine a fair bit of the cost of installing these machines is fixed (software development, machine design), and chains might as well roll them out in low-wage states as well.

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Post by danielfoster » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:09 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

Henry Ford paid a high wage because his new assembly line concept required specialization. It would be highly inefficient to constantly rehire and retrain works. One worker missing probably had a much greater financial impact in Ford factories than in other car factories at the time.

Henry Ford would have automated if he could.

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Post by harryh » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:10 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

That Henry Ford story is apocryphal. If you think about it, it doesn't really make any sense.

Re: Jack in the Box CEO reconsiders automation, kiosks

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Post by samfisher83 » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:10 PM UTC

elsurudo wrote: post #3

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

Yeah, but each company just thinks in isolation. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma.

Edit: I think my comment was misunderstood.

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Post by elsurudo » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:11 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #7

elsurudo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but each company just thinks in isolation. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma.

Edit: I think my comment was misunderstood.

Exactly right.

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Post by zitterbewegung » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:12 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

Just because a lot of people are working at McDonalds does not mean that the automation has not replaced people's jobs.

For example there are a lot of people that work in a law firm but there are no secretaries typing up what someone else is dictating.

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Post by elsurudo » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:12 PM UTC

harryh wrote: post #6

samfisher83 wrote: post #2

In Europe the McDonalds I have been to already have screen everywhere where you can order food. There still seems to be a bunch of people working there. I think this might is problem with automation. If you automate everything and you hire no people then who will buy your products. I think its why Henry Ford paid his people so well. So they could buy cars.

That Henry Ford story is apocryphal. If you think about it, it doesn't really make any sense.

Maybe, but he was a bit of an idealist and has strong thoughts about how people should and how society should be structured. And the resources to make a noticeable change. HAve you heard of Fordlandia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordlândia