The State of JavaScript Frameworks, 2017
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#2What about Svelte / Sapper? Too small to register?
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#3It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
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#4It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
Not specific for forms but have you looked at MobX instead of Redux? I think that is a better fit for most applications and you don't need so much boilerplate and diffrent thinking.
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#5It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
> I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection
Can you explain this? There's very little indirection (if any) in Redux.
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#6I'm actually quite shocked at how dominant Backbone was. Granted it was when npm was less popular, but still... impressive.
React dominating, as expected. Vue growing, which is nice. Angular and Ember both seem to hanging in there but it's clear they aren't where the community is interested.
I think we all knew that, but it's nice to see numbers. Kind of sobering to see Angular and Ember are basically as popular as Backbone is tho. Of the two - Ember seems more healthy.
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#7It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
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#8It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
The reactive form framework built into angular is everything I wish I had when working on an angularjs application.
I'm working on a new project in angular and I'm very impressed with the built-in routing support. Also, I wasn't a big fan of using rxjs Observables everywhere at first, but they are now my favorite thing about writing javascript.
I'm really looking forward to taking advantage of the service worker support as well.
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#9I'm actually quite shocked at how dominant Backbone was. Granted it was when npm was less popular, but still... impressive. React dominating, as expected. Vue growing, which is nice. Angular and Ember both seem to hanging in there but it's clear they aren't where the community is interested. I think we all knew that, but it's nice to see numbers. Kind of sobering to see Angular and Ember are basically as popular as B…
I know that some frameworks were built upon backbone. You'd use frameworkX which would wrap Backbone. You wouldn't use Backbone directly.
Re: The State of JavaScript Frameworks, 2017
#10It's a shame that Angular2/4 hasn't gotten more traction. It's really well designed in my opinion. People seem to be flocking onto the react train (possibly mindlessly). I found react to be quite lacking. I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection, and I haven't been able to find a way to handle forms in react that even comes close to angular2/4.
> I don't like redux and it's crazy indirection Can you explain this? There's very little indirection (if any ) in Redux.
I'm a Redux maintainer, and both Dan Abramov and I would disagree.
Describing behavior as plain object actions _is_ a form of indirection, compared to code that directly applies a state update. It's a tradeoff. Use of plain object actions takes some more code, but opens up the power of middleware and time travel debugging.