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Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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If only the Internet was resistant to losing connections. I guess all we can do is give these guys more money to defend us from the big bad bear with a military that is a tiny fraction of ours.

Tapping and tampering with connections is more likely here. Cutting a cable doesn't require a sub

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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If only the Internet was resistant to losing connections. I guess all we can do is give these guys more money to defend us from the big bad bear with a military that is a tiny fraction of ours.

I seriously doubt that a full-scale military assault on Russia is 1) going to be productive in the long run and 2) really not justified just to protect a cable. Given the ultra-big egos of donald and vladmir, any act that one might interpret as an assault would very likely result in massive amounts of firepower launching at civilian targets. Maybe I'm alone in accepting some spotting internet connection to Europe vs hundreds of thousands (or easily, millions) of casualties.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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I was at the talk where CDS Peach discussed the cutting of cables. The gist of it was that the UK navy would want to start patrolling/monitoring incoming UK cables as it was a vulnerability point that he felt was ... a likely target of those who might work against the UK interest.

It was a pretty interesting talk. The video can be found here:

https://rusi.org/event/annual-chief-defence-staff-lecture-20...

With the youtube video here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6YoI9kjbc

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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If only the Internet was resistant to losing connections. I guess all we can do is give these guys more money to defend us from the big bad bear with a military that is a tiny fraction of ours.

I seriously doubt that a full-scale military assault on Russia is 1) going to be productive in the long run and 2) really not justified just to protect a cable. Given the ultra-big egos of donald and vladmir, any act that one might interpret as an assault would very likely result in massive amounts of firepower launching at civilian targets. Maybe I'm alone in accepting some spotting internet connection to Europe vs…

The problem from a game-theoretic point of view is that if your opponent believes you won't retaliate over something small, they can just keep nibbling small chunks. Better to have the public believe that you're super territorial and will react violently to the slightest provocation. I think Vlad and Donnie know this and incorporate it into their public images, which is part of the reason you describe them as "ultra-big egos".

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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Making others believe you're able and willing to interfere with cables is an effective and bloodless way of force projection. For a player like Russia, who's always been big on visible activities shrouded in a hint of plausible deniability, this fits.
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