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The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

Its not illegal to leave your door unlocked.

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

>so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

By whom?

Where do you imagine these devices are made / manufactured?

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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post #4

Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

Its not illegal to leave your door unlocked.

At least in Germany, it's illegal to leave your car door unlocked. (Not sure about house doors.) The rationale is that it invites crime.

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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This was one of the best things I’ve read on wired in a while. It’s a surprisingly excellent write up on the Mirai bot net and the events surrounding it. (The HN headline title is definitely more click bait than I’d like)

The HN headline currently says:

> The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

How is this clickbait? All I can see is a summary of what happened. When people say "clickbait", I expect something like:

> Three Boys Sucked At Minecraft. You Won't Believe What Happened Next!

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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post #4

Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

Its not illegal to leave your door unlocked.

It is in some countries. The logic is: if you lock your car, it is harder to steal. If it's stolen because you left it open, it's your fault and you pay for police time and investigation. If a policeman sees your car unlocked they can give you a ticket for leaving that way.

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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post #5

Why do these kinds of investigations only ever stop at the perpetrator of the attack? In rushing to market, these IoT companies pushed out a defective, insecure product. Such an attack would not be possible without vulnerable hosts to hijack, so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined?

>so why aren't the IoT hardware companies investigated or fined? By whom? Where do you imagine these devices are made / manufactured?

By the police.

>Where do you imagine these devices are made / manufactured?

It doesn't matter. If Chinese, Thai, US, Spanic or Russian company wants to sell their device in Europe they have to comply to CEER (Council of European Energy Regulators) regulations, we need similar regulating body for software. Since we have lamps and phone chargers that don't blow power sockets and don't burn houses, we need software that doesn't blow Internet and burn cables.

Re: The Mirai Botnet Was Part of a College Student Minecraft Scheme

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not illegal to leave your door unlocked.

At least in Germany, it's illegal to leave your car door unlocked. (Not sure about house doors.) The rationale is that it invites crime.

I didn't know that. Is it possible, then, that a person who leaves their door unlocked is punished while the person who stole and dumped the car is not?
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