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GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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I really wish Guix and NixOS had more usage in the industry.

I am not sure if these are the projects that are going to drive the innovation, if they are only showing the way for the 2nd-generation functional package managers, or if this will just remain a niche forever.

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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Is this Linux?

The site should be more direct about whether or not it is Linux.

I don't have time to wade through reams of words to work out what something is. Just tell me.

It's not clear at all why this matters or is better than other operating systems. If this is a competitor to Linux then the first thing they need to address is "why should you care?", if it is Linux, then the first thing it should adress is "Why you should use this over other distros"

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #3

Is this Linux? The site should be more direct about whether or not it is Linux. I don't have time to wade through reams of words to work out what something is. Just tell me. It's not clear at all why this matters or is better than other operating systems. If this is a competitor to Linux then the first thing they need to address is "why should you care?", if it is Linux, then the first thing it should adress is "Why…

They ought to have said Gnu/Linux, as per their own propaganda!

I'm guessing if the word "Hurd" doesn't appear anywhere on the page, it's still Linux.

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #2

I really wish Guix and NixOS had more usage in the industry. I am not sure if these are the projects that are going to drive the innovation, if they are only showing the way for the 2nd-generation functional package managers, or if this will just remain a niche forever.

There are some deployments in the industry already. AFAIK, Logicblox employs Nix creator.

Both Nix & Guix are past proof-of-concept stage. In particular, I've found Guix very elegant, simple and useful.

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #3

Is this Linux? The site should be more direct about whether or not it is Linux. I don't have time to wade through reams of words to work out what something is. Just tell me. It's not clear at all why this matters or is better than other operating systems. If this is a competitor to Linux then the first thing they need to address is "why should you care?", if it is Linux, then the first thing it should adress is "Why…

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/about/

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #4
post #3

Is this Linux? The site should be more direct about whether or not it is Linux. I don't have time to wade through reams of words to work out what something is. Just tell me. It's not clear at all why this matters or is better than other operating systems. If this is a competitor to Linux then the first thing they need to address is "why should you care?", if it is Linux, then the first thing it should adress is "Why…

They ought to have said Gnu/Linux, as per their own propaganda! I'm guessing if the word "Hurd" doesn't appear anywhere on the page, it's still Linux.

Linux is just the kernel. GNU as a name for the system is okay, while Linux is arguably not. GNU/Linux is just a compromise for those who insist on naming Linux. Also, from the projects website, we have

"GuixSD is a distribution of the GNU operating system centered on the GNU Guix package manager. It uses the Linux-libre kernel, and support for the Hurd is being worked on."

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/about/

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #2

I really wish Guix and NixOS had more usage in the industry. I am not sure if these are the projects that are going to drive the innovation, if they are only showing the way for the 2nd-generation functional package managers, or if this will just remain a niche forever.

The problem is that _every_ _single_ _program_ has to have its configuration files rewritten to take nix or guix into account, and every sysadmin has to know how to use the new nix or guix way.

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #2

I really wish Guix and NixOS had more usage in the industry. I am not sure if these are the projects that are going to drive the innovation, if they are only showing the way for the 2nd-generation functional package managers, or if this will just remain a niche forever.

What would boost uptake is for just one of the major distros, especially Ubuntu, to release a spin/variant based off either.

Re: GNU Guix and GuixSD 0.14.0 released

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post #2

I really wish Guix and NixOS had more usage in the industry. I am not sure if these are the projects that are going to drive the innovation, if they are only showing the way for the 2nd-generation functional package managers, or if this will just remain a niche forever.

The problem is that _every_ _single_ _program_ has to have its configuration files rewritten to take nix or guix into account, and every sysadmin has to know how to use the new nix or guix way.

I don't think this is the case. I've packaged several things for Guix, and patches are rare. Stuff that has good configuration (e.g. uses GNU make, and thus accepts --prefix) will be fine.
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