Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
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Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
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Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#3I have to ask:
Is there any concrete evidence against Kaspersky doing anything remotely concerning since this whole charade against them started in 2015 or is it still "they're Russian, so they must be doing something bad" scenario?
EDIT: Fuck if I understand why people like JohnStrange, revelation and ryanlol are downvoted in their replies to this comment. They're on topic.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#4I have to ask: Is there any concrete evidence against Kaspersky doing anything remotely concerning since this whole charade against them started in 2015 or is it still "they're Russian, so they must be doing something bad" scenario? EDIT: Fuck if I understand why people like JohnStrange, revelation and ryanlol are downvoted in their replies to this comment. They're on topic.
It’s a witch hunt slash scapegoat. Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence at all only unnamed sources and speculation. All the money wasted on this politics garbage sigh.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#5Kasperky's story here seems completely believable. Yet the US government's warnings also seem reasonable even given just the facts everyone agrees on.
I guess the larger lesson may be how Russia's failure to establish rule of law makes it impossible to run a business that depends on trust. The US should take note: if they succeed in breaking Apple et al's attempts to protect their users, pretty soon the only countries you'll want to buy software from are Norway and Canada.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#6So an NSA contractor or employee takes confidential/highly sensitive code and documents home and leaves it on their machine. They then install a pirated version of Office, after disabling their antivirus software which is telling them it is infected with a virus and preventing the installation.
Seems like massive incompetence from this user rather than Kaspersky doing anything malicious, and those files where destined to be leaked somehow the moment they left the NSA.
I'm sure there are some employees there who may report or leak things to the Russian government, but I don't buy the narrative that Kaspersky is some evil Russian cyber hoover. Maybe I'm naive though.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#7I have to ask: Is there any concrete evidence against Kaspersky doing anything remotely concerning since this whole charade against them started in 2015 or is it still "they're Russian, so they must be doing something bad" scenario? EDIT: Fuck if I understand why people like JohnStrange, revelation and ryanlol are downvoted in their replies to this comment. They're on topic.
It’s a witch hunt slash scapegoat. Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence at all only unnamed sources and speculation. All the money wasted on this politics garbage sigh.
The witch hunt has gone so crazy that even the author of faceapp than removes make up was somehow tied to "Russian troll farms". It's sickening.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#8It's very descriptive. They say a 45mb file was stolen. Nice of them to do that instead of painting it like some ancient civilization from some far galactic empire came down and spread pixie dust around nsa headquarters and that's how they hacked us.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#9I have to ask: Is there any concrete evidence against Kaspersky doing anything remotely concerning since this whole charade against them started in 2015 or is it still "they're Russian, so they must be doing something bad" scenario? EDIT: Fuck if I understand why people like JohnStrange, revelation and ryanlol are downvoted in their replies to this comment. They're on topic.
It’s a witch hunt slash scapegoat. Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence at all only unnamed sources and speculation. All the money wasted on this politics garbage sigh.
> Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence
Well... not quite.
Re: Kaspersky: Yes, we obtained NSA secrets. No, we didn’t help steal them
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a witch hunt slash scapegoat. Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence at all only unnamed sources and speculation. All the money wasted on this politics garbage sigh.
> Just as is Russian “collusion” with trump. Absolutely zero evidence Well... not quite.
Can you link to any evidence suggesting foul play on Kasperskys part?
edit: This question was far more reasonable before the parent comment was edited.