Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
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Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#2If the scientists don't convince people, I hope the massive droughts in some places, flooding in others, superstorms, and other massive weather pattern shifts will.
In the US, there's still a large group of people (or maybe just a vocal group) that cover their ears and won't listen to anything climate-change related, even in the highest places of our government.
I hope a healthy dose of "this is what climate change looks like" will scare people into believing. Even if you don't want to believe that humans are the cause, we still need to do something about it, and fast (something besides blaming everything on homosexuals).
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#3So, a mere 0.14% (!) of the approximate 11 million scientists has signed. Lets be honest here: not a whole lot really...
(ps: down-voting this post doesn't change this fact...)
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#4If the scientists don't convince people, I hope the massive droughts in some places, flooding in others, superstorms, and other massive weather pattern shifts will. In the US, there's still a large group of people (or maybe just a vocal group) that cover their ears and won't listen to anything climate-change related, even in the highest places of our government. I hope a healthy dose of "this is what climate change l…
Yet if your house gets flooded or blown away by a hurricane, the insurance company won't blame global warming- instead they literally claim that it is an "act of god"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God
It's interesting how a lack of accountability over the weather is so deeply ingrained into our culture like this.
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#5If the scientists don't convince people, I hope the massive droughts in some places, flooding in others, superstorms, and other massive weather pattern shifts will. In the US, there's still a large group of people (or maybe just a vocal group) that cover their ears and won't listen to anything climate-change related, even in the highest places of our government. I hope a healthy dose of "this is what climate change l…
I don't think that is necessarily true. I think the 'large group of people' do not deny that climate change exists. I find they come to a conclusion somewhere in the ballpark of: Sure, natural climate change exists, but manmade climate change is an insignificant factor in this, and/or humans have little ability to overpower natural climate change and turn it around (cooling it, even if we're in a naturally warming stint). Misinformed, perhaps, but rational.
Not unlike the apathetic feeling that causes people not not show up at the polls.
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#6The enabler in the USA for continuing to believe that there is no link between pollution emissions and more pronounced extreme weather is the lack of education surrounding statistics and its analysis.
At this point I just ask what scientific statistic a person would need to hear in order to consider changing their mind. Unfortunately, I haven't ever gotten an informative reply indicating knowledge of the field, and am still open to hearing what exactly it would be.
Edit: Granted, at this point, most people on both sides seem to have given up learning about the fundamental literature driving this debate. See John Oliver's "It Just F*ing Is" on his recent show.
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#7So, a mere 0.14% (!) of the approximate 11 million scientists has signed. Lets be honest here: not a whole lot really... (ps: down-voting this post doesn't change this fact...)
> of the approximate 11 million scientists has signed....
A.) Is there a citation that accompanies your statistic?
B.) Does this number account for the type of scientist? Are you lumping non-Earth scientists (say, fiber optic researchers) in with your assesment that 15K is not a large number?
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#8If the scientists don't convince people, I hope the massive droughts in some places, flooding in others, superstorms, and other massive weather pattern shifts will. In the US, there's still a large group of people (or maybe just a vocal group) that cover their ears and won't listen to anything climate-change related, even in the highest places of our government. I hope a healthy dose of "this is what climate change l…
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#9The enabler in the USA for continuing to believe that there is no link between pollution emissions and more pronounced extreme weather is the lack of education surrounding statistics and its analysis. At this point I just ask what scientific statistic a person would need to hear in order to consider changing their mind. Unfortunately, I haven't ever gotten an informative reply indicating knowledge of the field, and a…
Typical exchange:
"Climate change is bullshit! I demand to see evidence of it actually occurring!"
"I don't recognize these sources! These were payed for by liberal media! I demand to see real data!"
Rinse and repeat.
Re: Scientists have signed the largest-ever warning about Earth’s destruction
#10The enabler in the USA for continuing to believe that there is no link between pollution emissions and more pronounced extreme weather is the lack of education surrounding statistics and its analysis. At this point I just ask what scientific statistic a person would need to hear in order to consider changing their mind. Unfortunately, I haven't ever gotten an informative reply indicating knowledge of the field, and a…
> At this point I just ask what scientific statistic a person would need to hear in order to consider changing their mind.
None. Your are trying to use reason to influence an emotional behavior. It won't work.
The day geeks understand, accept and practice this simple truth, everything will get easier. For everything. Love. Work. Politics. Raising children. Everything.