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Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

Touch typing while being pretty much blind is very difficult. It can be hard to even find the keyboard.

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

A few ideas mentioned in the article sound interesting:

“But VR can transform and augment that trusty keyboard – so easy to disregard – into a contextually aware companion for whatever application you use, becoming a palette for your creative workflow, dynamically providing you with any commands and shortcuts you need.”

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

why even assume you have to 'look at' the keyboard?

the keyboard can follow the user's view... along with the silhouette of the user's hand...

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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post #3

does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

Touch typing while being pretty much blind is very difficult. It can be hard to even find the keyboard.

I touch-type in the dark without seeing the keyboard just fine.

But that's on a physical keyboard that has something which virtual keyboards lack: tactile feedback.

Tactile feedback is one of the missing pieces of today's VR devices. Without it typing on a fully virtual keyboard is just not going to be nearly as accurate as on a physical keyboard, and providing visual feedback is just about the only thing you can do about it.

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

why even assume you have to 'look at' the keyboard? the keyboard can follow the user's view... along with the silhouette of the user's hand...

This could be done, but I expect it to be usually pretty annoying. Most of the time when I type I don't want to be looking at my hands or the keyboard. Instead, I want to be looking at either the text I'm typing or something else (like some other text, or a video, etc). Having a silhouette of my hands and a keyboard superimposed over what I'm looking at will just be distracting.

That said, I don't really have a better suggestion. Typing in VR is just going to be plain painful for anyone who can touch type with any speed on a physical keyboard.

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

I thought the same thing so I disabled the backlight on my laptop's keyboard. After accidentally turning it on in the dark a month later I will never go back to a non back-lit keyboard.

It's hard to place your hands on the keyboard in pitch black or when you're in a weird position like lying on your back with the laptop on your chest. If you've ever partially closed your laptop so that the monitor would shine on your keyboard so you could find 'f' and 'j', you know exactly what I'm talking about.

And also TFA says "for a true typing experience you need to see your hands, and we’ve created a way to use the Vive’s existing tracking to do that".

Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality

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post #8

does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?

I thought the same thing so I disabled the backlight on my laptop's keyboard. After accidentally turning it on in the dark a month later I will never go back to a non back-lit keyboard. It's hard to place your hands on the keyboard in pitch black or when you're in a weird position like lying on your back with the laptop on your chest. If you've ever partially closed your laptop so that the monitor would shine on your…

The way I know where to place my fingers on a dark keyboard is by feeling for some raised bumps which are on the f and j keys on my keyboard. As long as I've got those, I can always easily put my fingers in the default position on the home row, and from there it's easy.

As long as I can use such markers to position my hands in the proper initial position, I really don't like to have a lit keyboard in the dark. It's distracting and annoying.

If your keyboard doesn't have such bumps it's easy enough to make them either using some craft materials you can stick on the keyboard (like some tape even) or by cutting small notches in to it using a file or a dremel tool.

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