Cold spot in the Atlantic: scientists think their worst fears have come true

hedora wrote: post #5

The issue is that the Atlantic currents may be shutting down. If that happens, Western Europe will become drastically colder. The article doesn’t make this point very coherently.

There's a linked Washington Post article at the bottom, that links to an updated Washington Post article that says:

I also quoted two prominent researchers who think this pattern reflects a much feared slowdown in Atlantic ocean circulation, a scenario made famous by the film The Day After Tomorrow. Granted, even if they’re right, what’s happening here will be nothing like the movie. At most, the circulation may be slowing, not stopping abruptly. And with a warming globe overall, there will definitely be no new ice age.

Re: Cold spot in the Atlantic: scientists think their worst fears have come true

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Post by StudentStuff » Sun, Oct 01, 2017, 9:08 AM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #6

hedora wrote: post #5

The issue is that the Atlantic currents may be shutting down. If that happens, Western Europe will become drastically colder. The article doesn’t make this point very coherently.

There's a linked Washington Post article at the bottom, that links to an updated Washington Post article that says: I also quoted two prominent researchers who think this pattern reflects a much feared slowdown in Atlantic ocean circulation, a scenario made famous by the film The Day After Tomorrow. Granted, even if they’re right, what’s happening here will be nothing like the movie. At most, the circulation may be s…

While there might not be a new ice age caused by temperatures decreasing in Europe, this will reduce the growing season for certain crops, increase energy usage, and potentially set the stage for conflict. In the distant past for most of us (WW2 & prior) Europe was a powder keg, with wars and turmoil. Only in the past few decades has the continent acted as more of a singular entity, though with Brexit and potentially Grexit this seems to be unraveling.

Re: Cold spot in the Atlantic: scientists think their worst fears have come true

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Post by wallace_f » Sun, Oct 01, 2017, 9:11 AM UTC

hedora wrote: post #5

The issue is that the Atlantic currents may be shutting down. If that happens, Western Europe will become drastically colder. The article doesn’t make this point very coherently.

Yep, it's there, but buried in noise and superflous info.

Being neatly concise in journalism seems unfortunately nearly unvalued.

I'd appreciate any media that valued a simple information/words metric.

In other words, I shouldn't have to skim read articles like this; the journalist should have efficiently managed the info already.

Not to say long-form journalism is bad, but that's a different style.

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Post by bhouston » Sun, Oct 01, 2017, 9:13 AM UTC

This is 2 years old and is based on 6 months of data. Any updates?

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Post by wallace_f » Sun, Oct 01, 2017, 9:15 AM UTC

StudentStuff wrote: post #7

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a linked Washington Post article at the bottom, that links to an updated Washington Post article that says: I also quoted two prominent researchers who think this pattern reflects a much feared slowdown in Atlantic ocean circulation, a scenario made famous by the film The Day After Tomorrow. Granted, even if they’re right, what’s happening here will be nothing like the movie. At most, the circulation may be s…

While there might not be a new ice age caused by temperatures decreasing in Europe, this will reduce the growing season for certain crops, increase energy usage, and potentially set the stage for conflict. In the distant past for most of us (WW2 & prior) Europe was a powder keg, with wars and turmoil. Only in the past few decades has the continent acted as more of a singular entity, though with Brexit and potentially…

>Potentially set the stage for conflict.

I sincerely hope this idea becomes politically incorrect. There is huge potential for conflict with resources either becoming scarcer, or at least industry and agriculture needing to at least reorganize. Further, Russia is probably the only country to significantly gain from it. However, I don't want a "holy war" over global warming because that won't solve global warming. It will just create war, just as all our wars after WWII have done nothing but that.