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New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly working) public transit. One of the biggest factors keeping me here is the public transit and the fact that I don't need to drive and sit in traffic.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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NYC has a great ecosystem of experienced people who know how to program, know math, and understand how businesses/product work. In this regard there are many amazing qualified data science practitioners.

But, the data science startup scene is not really thriving in NYC yet. Compared to the Bay Area, I see two main issues: a lack of data scientists with strong software engineering skills, and a lot less angel money (probably due to very few large successful exits).

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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NYC has a great ecosystem of experienced people who know how to program, know math, and understand how businesses/product work. In this regard there are many amazing qualified data science practitioners. But, the data science startup scene is not really thriving in NYC yet. Compared to the Bay Area, I see two main issues: a lack of data scientists with strong software engineering skills, and a lot less angel money (p…

>>lack of data scientists with strong engineering skills >>less angel money

absolutely. this article is a great 30k feet up review of the scene and what you add is true.

i operate NYC but literally live 100s of miles away as my affordable housing policy, because I am building an open data science consultancy that is revenue driven.

what i'd add happens is that your scientists and tech people are a step removed from the real-world disciplines put in their petrie dish. they are not working in business settings, but institutional ones, because there isn't quite a silicon valley thing, and public-private-partnerships in NY mostly mean corruption, not innovation.

that said, what makes the NYC scene really amazing is that most of us are doing our part as a civic project.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city.

The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong.

But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city. The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong. But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

You may want to consider a gentle reintroduction to "weather", especially East Coast winters. Snow is fun when you're on a ski vacation. Decidedly less so when it's wet and getting whipped into your face by the wind as you trudge to work.

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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NYC has a much more diverse business environment than the Valley and that grounds the tech industry a lot more to focus on solving problems. There's much less acceptance of "Uber for lawn gnomes" app companies and a lot more pressure to deliver true value (in my observation).

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city. The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong. But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

SF and NYC are polar opposites in nearly every aspect of daily life. For one to jump ship to either or, is a big difference. I prefer the seasons as well, I couldn't live in any place where it's basically the same weather ever day. Fall just arrived here in New York (the best season ever).

Re: New York City: Data Science’s Best Bet for Growth and Opportunity

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I live and work in NYC as a JS developer, and I feel like it's a great place to be. The community is strong here and there's a lot of diversity in what people do, technical or not, within the tech community. The amenities are good and I walk to work and honestly the rents are not that bad. Manhattan is the most expensive, but if you want to save money Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, etc. are cheaper and all linked by (mostly w…

As someone living in SF I’ve been seriously eyeing NYC for a while now. It just seems like an overall better city. The roads are better, the people seem more varied, there’s even more things to do outside work, there are seasons (god I miss weather), and the tech scene is probably almost as strong. But are there many startups? It almost seems these days more startups are coming out of Europe than out of NYC.

The startup scene is pretty decent. There are hundreds of companies here, including some pretty big names: DigitalOcean, BlueApron, Etsy, Casper, Compass, Stack Overflow, Jet (technically in NJ, but close enough), Meetup, etc. Not to mention that the larger ones (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Adobe, etc) all have pretty large offices here.

What I like most is the diversity in the companies. They're "tech" companies, but their business is advertising, finance, real estate, and lots of other industries. There is so much diversity here that, even if you only hang out with technically-minded people, you'll still have plenty to talk about. When I lived in SF, every person seemed to do the exact same thing but for a slightly different variation of the same kind of company.

Anyway, I'm obviously biased, but I prefer NYC to SF. The weather was a huge point for me, but also the fact that NYC just "feels" more like a city - it's incredibly dense in most parts of Manhattan, which makes it easy to walk to almost anything. Diversity are transportation are two other big pros.

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