Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
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Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
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Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#2This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good.
However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source.
It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software.
How much has Microsoft really changed? I have windows on my gaming PC, and every day i have to ALT+F4 a stupid message to "review my privacy settings". There is no option for full privacy so i keep ALT+F4'ing the message and block all the telemetry stuff in my openbsd firewall.
I have a powershell script called deleteapps that removes all the apps that is reinstalled everytime there is an update. It also appears to be impossible to uninstall the xbox app. Onedrive keeps turning on even if I choose that I do not want to sync during the installation, set the option in onedrive to not start at launch.
Why fight the user to this level? Have they really turned "good"?
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#3This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
You have a lot more patience that I do, frankly.
That's the point people keep missing. These a-holes are seizing control over our computing primarily through Windows and while this stuff (described above) continues, it doesn't really matter if they open-source a lot of shit that doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things or throw a few bucks here and there because all in all it's Windows that has become a huge problem.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#4This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
I just spent a few minutes this morning trying to figure out how to turn off Cortana on my windows 10 virtual machine. I don't want to have to spend 45 minutes of my morning trying to figure out the ins and outs of elevated power shell to just turn one freaking app off on an operating system that I bought and therefore should have control over. In my view, this is very obviously tailored to deter most people from removing apps. I would say, this is not my idea of "good".
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#5This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
I just spent a few minutes this morning trying to figure out how to turn off Cortana on my windows 10 virtual machine. I don't want to have to spend 45 minutes of my morning trying to figure out the ins and outs of elevated power shell to just turn one freaking app off on an operating system that I bought and therefore should have control over. In my view, this is very obviously tailored to deter most people from rem…
Add to that the clearly missing quality control and it's just eye poke after eye poke for me. I rebuilt my daughter's laptop a couple of weeks back after her MS account got hosed due to an unresolvable billing problem that just threw errors galore and MS support is like talking to Cortana now. It took me 3 hours to get it into a workable, secure and privacy respecting state with a local account. And it's still unreliable with random stupid failures like the start menu not responding to keyboard without a reboot, the wallpaper disappearing etc.
And them I'm greeted with an advert for Cortana as a notification. And when I installed it, at the start, the entire installer uses Cortana now and shouts at you at full volume. And at every step it wants me to sign in to a Microsoft account over and over again or half the OS decides it's not going to work. What the fuck?
It's a mess. A total undeniable crapfest which just needs to walk itself off a cliff.
I'm a recent switcher to macOS after dabbling for a decade on a second machine. There just isn't this shit to deal with on the platform. It mostly just works and is incredibly boring. Which is what I want from a tool. Yes I sign in with an Apple Account but in the decade I've had one, I have had zero problems. MS account ownership is hell from billing problems, xbox live sign in problems, data loss, crazy authentication fragmentation, the lot.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#6This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
Also Microsoft has been threatening Android companies with patents, engaging in racketeering, milking more money out of Android than they made with their Windows phones.
As they say, if you can't innovate, litigate, Microsoft having the potential to become the biggest patents troll ever.
And I expect replies to this comment saying that this is how the game works, that others are also doing it, bla, bla. Stop trying to normalize the usage of patents for non-defensive purposes folks. These companies are playing the system, earning money on the hard work of others by using abusive monopolies granted by the government.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#7This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
Their new strategy might be to join open source communities and kill them from the inside. Although they probably just mean well and everything bad is just coincidence of incompetence.
Btw, you can play a lot of games on Linux!
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#8This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
It really is amazing: Microsoft have fixed so many long-standing problems in Windows 10 and made something that is very close to offering a wonderful, refined user experience. However, they have also doubled down on undisableable focus-stealing and sound-making popups and forced interactions with their latest HCI "innovations" with the net result being that Windows 10 manages to feel as user-hostile as any version of Windows ever has...
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#9This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
They haven't changed a bit. Open Source is merely a marketing tag for them to gain credibility. They are not very good in the open source community; most of their github OSS releases other than a few high profile ones are unmaintained crap with zero response. If you want to fire up Linux in SCVMM for example, the tooling is open source now, but full of bugs and no way to ship it with working tools. Nothing is ever responded to, PRs, defects or anything. But it's OSS, look we're OSS! It's a joke.
Then when you do raise something on a high profile project like .Net Core which actively has buggy untested tracking enabled in the command line build tools, which violates security policies of a lot of their clients, you get told in nearly as few words to fuck off when you want it turned off by default.
On top of that They still don't listen to customers, preferring to shout loudly over them on endless blogs and marketing whilst crapping on them with increasing costs, decreasing quality, less privacy, ruinous products and more fragmentation.
They're the Omni-Consumer-Products software company now.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Sponsor of Open Source Initiative
#10This is all fine and good. I hope their efforts are sincere. All money and support to free software is most likely good. However, I've been part of the open source community for 25 years, and I remember the brutal marketing against the "cancer" of open source. It will take a lot to convince me that there is not some underlying goal here that is not beneficial to free software. How much has Microsoft really changed? I…
type "Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.XboxApp | Remove-AppxPackage" into powershell to remove the Xbox