Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
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Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#2...removing the main reason to use WhatsApp.
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#3> It was unclear how the authorities can monitor apps such as WhatsApp, which says its messages are supported by end-to-end encryption, meaning the company cannot read customers’ messages even if approached by law enforcement agencies.
I'm both fascinated and perplexed too.
Any ideas/theories?
Does anyone know if you're governmentally required to install an SSL cert on your device, for example?
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#4End to end encryption, yo.
Utter bullshit when relying on a 3rd party.
I apologize for cursing.
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#5Very poor headline. No evidence of any deal to MITM WhatsApp encryption.
What deal? With who?
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#6> It was unclear how the authorities can monitor apps such as WhatsApp, which says its messages are supported by end-to-end encryption, meaning the company cannot read customers’ messages even if approached by law enforcement agencies. I'm both fascinated and perplexed too. Any ideas/theories? Does anyone know if you're governmentally required to install an SSL cert on your device, for example?
Unless they struck a deal with Whatsapp for people's private keys somehow, i think it's a huge bluff.
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#7> It was unclear how the authorities can monitor apps such as WhatsApp, which says its messages are supported by end-to-end encryption, meaning the company cannot read customers’ messages even if approached by law enforcement agencies. I'm both fascinated and perplexed too. Any ideas/theories? Does anyone know if you're governmentally required to install an SSL cert on your device, for example?
Possibly some mobile telecoms route outgoing VOIP calls (regardless of originating application) via their own network? I haven't looked deeply into this, but I've noticed when I call someone on FB messenger, the call shows up in Phone.app with a long "social profile" address beginning with IBTU. Not sure if this address is internal to iOS or global.
Also, is it even confirmed whatsapp encrypts voice calls in addition to texts?
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#8> It was unclear how the authorities can monitor apps such as WhatsApp, which says its messages are supported by end-to-end encryption, meaning the company cannot read customers’ messages even if approached by law enforcement agencies. I'm both fascinated and perplexed too. Any ideas/theories? Does anyone know if you're governmentally required to install an SSL cert on your device, for example?
Messages are e2e, was under the impression that calls aren't yet.
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#9TBH, This is the lead:
> The decision to lift the blocks could negatively impact Saudi Arabia’s three main telecoms operators - Saudi Telecom Co (STC), Etihad Etisalat (Mobily) and Zain Saudi - which earn the bulk of their revenue from international phone calls made by the millions of expatriates living in the kingdom.
> Zain Saudi’s CEO, Peter Kaliaropoulos, told Reuters some lost income could be recouped through expansion of its own data services.
> “The Saudi market has a strong appetite for faster data throughput and higher data use packages,” he said in an email. “The opportunity to monetize the extra data usage will partially offset voice revenue losses”.
Re: Saudi lifting ban on Skype, WhatsApp calls, but will monitor them
#10> It was unclear how the authorities can monitor apps such as WhatsApp, which says its messages are supported by end-to-end encryption, meaning the company cannot read customers’ messages even if approached by law enforcement agencies. I'm both fascinated and perplexed too. Any ideas/theories? Does anyone know if you're governmentally required to install an SSL cert on your device, for example?
While WhatsApp (texts, anyway) are reportedly secure in terms of content - how about meta-data? Could they maybe trace texts, and see eg pairs of named Saudi nationals and recipients at Amnesty International - and could that be difficult without cooperation from WhatsApp (access to plaintext meta-data/routing information)?
With suspicion, I suppose message content is only a handful of plied fingernails or threats against close family away?