France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
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Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#2The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue.
Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#3The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
When Google or Apple declares losses in Spain having record revenues so they have fiscal benefits when that country has a very big crisis then we have a big problem.
But hey, those countries ajust want to get their grubby hand in those poor companies.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#4The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
They benefit from having the market; the entire set of infrastructure and society that makes it possible to make money there. Google has no divine right to sell into that market without taxes or tariffs any more than European companies have to sell into the US.
But there's a very particularly European problem here, that of cross-state revenue recognition. A gross receipts tax or similar is one solution, which is also present in four US states: https://taxfoundation.org/state-corporate-income-tax-rates-a...
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#5The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
So you can take Googles content, intellectual property, or patents and do what you like? France, Germany, Italy or Spain law enforcement wont do anything?
This is one of the key infrastructure that government provides and Google depends.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#6The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
They benefit from having the market ; the entire set of infrastructure and society that makes it possible to make money there. Google has no divine right to sell into that market without taxes or tariffs any more than European companies have to sell into the US. But there's a very particularly European problem here, that of cross-state revenue recognition. A gross receipts tax or similar is one solution, which is als…
The government is not the market, the people are the market. If the government is in the business of selling the public to multinational corporations, something is truly wrong.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#7The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
So you can take Googles content, intellectual property, or patents and do what you like? France, Germany, Italy or Spain law enforcement wont do anything? This is one of the key infrastructure that government provides and Google depends.
No, their courts are guided by treaty to expose citizens to action on the patents of other countries, just as courts in other countries are guided by those same treaties to expose theirs.
As far as I understand, all treaties of this sort are bilateral.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#8The idea of a revenue tax of course contradicts the stated justifications for existing taxes on business: the funding of ephemeral services which contribute indirectly to the business's revenue. Google benefits from approximately no government infrastructure in France, Germany, Italy, or Spain, but they want to get their grubby hands on it nonetheless.
When Google or Apple declares losses in Spain having record revenues so they have fiscal benefits when that country has a very big crisis then we have a big problem. But hey, those countries ajust want to get their grubby hand in those poor companies.
Google is not responsible for the corrupt and decadent governments in countries they don't operate out of; they're hardly responsible for it where they do operate. When China manipulates the markets so much that they collapse, and when Sweden spends its way into poverty, it will not be Google's fault, nor their responsibility to pay for it.
Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
They benefit from having the market ; the entire set of infrastructure and society that makes it possible to make money there. Google has no divine right to sell into that market without taxes or tariffs any more than European companies have to sell into the US. But there's a very particularly European problem here, that of cross-state revenue recognition. A gross receipts tax or similar is one solution, which is als…
The government is not the market, the people are the market. If the government is in the business of selling the public to multinational corporations, something is truly wrong.
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Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
When Google or Apple declares losses in Spain having record revenues so they have fiscal benefits when that country has a very big crisis then we have a big problem. But hey, those countries ajust want to get their grubby hand in those poor companies.
Google is not responsible for the corrupt and decadent governments in countries they don't operate out of; they're hardly responsible for it where they do operate. When China manipulates the markets so much that they collapse, and when Sweden spends its way into poverty, it will not be Google's fault, nor their responsibility to pay for it.
Are you saying that Apple or Google don't operate in Spain or France?
What the heck has to do your claim of Spain or France being corrupt with Apple or Google declaring losses with record revenues?