North Korea fires missile over Japan
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North Korea fires missile over Japan
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Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#2This leads to the next thing. Violating Japan's airspace with a missile may be a provocation for war. If that's the case, you're going to hear from our (US) president that we're officially going to war or conflict with North Korea. Unfortunately, in this case, I believe that Bannon is right. (We're screwed in that situation)
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#3This is terrifying in light of watching simulated WW3 this morning this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbB0srzLuuo
Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#4This leads to the next thing. Violating Japan's airspace with a missile may be a provocation for war. If that's the case, you're going to hear from our (US) president that we're officially going to war or conflict with North Korea. Unfortunately, in this case, I believe that Bannon is right. (We're screwed in that situation)
Whatever else you think of Bannon, he was, and is staunchly anti-war.
I'm not sure you can say that about any of Trumos current advisers.
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#5Is there any way an amateur can verify claims of a missile being fired? Does it appear on radar at all?
Thinking one of the flight tracking sites.
In today's world I'm skeptical to say the least.
Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#6This leads to the next thing. Violating Japan's airspace with a missile may be a provocation for war. If that's the case, you're going to hear from our (US) president that we're officially going to war or conflict with North Korea. Unfortunately, in this case, I believe that Bannon is right. (We're screwed in that situation)
We aren't going to war, at least not intentionally. The downsides of a conflict with a nuclear state, even one with questionable capabilities like the DPRK, vastly outweigh the upsides. And Kim knows this, which is why he feels free to continue to call our bluffs.
Trump's inability to bluff (or communicate with precision in general) has really messed things up at this point. I mean, taking his words as spoken he has already threatened to nuke them if they even so much as continue issuing threats. Not only did they up the threat ante within hours of that remark (c.f. "attack the waters around Guam"), they've now put a weapon straight through an ally's airspace. Where do we go from here?
Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#7Is there any way an amateur can verify claims of a missile being fired? Does it appear on radar at all? Thinking one of the flight tracking sites. In today's world I'm skeptical to say the least.
Certainly NK has every reason to lie, but I can't imagine why Japan would. Open war with NK would be very dangerous for them.
Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#8This leads to the next thing. Violating Japan's airspace with a missile may be a provocation for war. If that's the case, you're going to hear from our (US) president that we're officially going to war or conflict with North Korea. Unfortunately, in this case, I believe that Bannon is right. (We're screwed in that situation)
According to Washington Post, the rocket has not entered Japan's airspace, it went into the outer space before coming back to Earth to the east of Hokkaido. (Yes, it did cross the projection of Japan onto the heavens.)
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#9What does the Japanese Self-Defense Force's charter allow in cases like this? Are they allowed to launch attacks on foreign soil in response to immediate threats, or do they need to appeal to the US/allies to do it for them?
(Not that there's much they could usefully do to NK, AFAIK, but I'm curious about the principle.)
Re: North Korea fires missile over Japan
#10Is there any way an amateur can verify claims of a missile being fired? Does it appear on radar at all? Thinking one of the flight tracking sites. In today's world I'm skeptical to say the least.
No: the missile peaked at 550km (probably about when it was over Japan), so unless a(n un)lucky Japanese civilian in "sparsely populated Hokkaido" was looking toward Pyongyang through a telescope at 6am and tweeted a photo of the missile in boost phase, I'd say you wouldn't even be able to tell what the object was.
Furthermore, if you don't trust reports from two nations' militaries, you definitely shouldn't trust anything on the Internet.
Hokkaido is beautiful this time of year, just sayin'