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Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I have never understood the big deal about organ donation. The dead person no longer uses the liver or whatnot and has no opinion. The other 98% of the body will be discarded anyway so why not recycle?

It's part superstition and part weird fear that doctors will let you die in order to harvest your organs.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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You are also not presented with a form to opt-in in Denmark, and you have to request a form in order to opt-in.

So the chart is exactly as is stated.

In opt-in countries you have to contact authorities to opt-in and in opt-out countries you have to contact authorities to opt-out.

The author has a moral position made clear early in the article, when saying that more than 99% "failed to opt-out".

No they didn't fail to do anything. They either chose not to, or did care enough about the subject matter to make a choice.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I have never understood the big deal about organ donation. The dead person no longer uses the liver or whatnot and has no opinion. The other 98% of the body will be discarded anyway so why not recycle?

Or the superstition that the organ will be harvested while you are still alive.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I had a discussion with a French medical student concerning organ donation. She said that the type of death where organs can be donated (cerebral death if I remember right) is very uncommon (compared to cardiac arrest) so we did not have to worry about it (or needed to opt-out). In addition, like in the Austrian example, the relatives are consulted for their assent.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I have never understood the big deal about organ donation. The dead person no longer uses the liver or whatnot and has no opinion. The other 98% of the body will be discarded anyway so why not recycle?

It's part superstition and part weird fear that doctors will let you die in order to harvest your organs.

That's not a weird fear. I've heard of it happening in a specific case.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I have never understood the big deal about organ donation. The dead person no longer uses the liver or whatnot and has no opinion. The other 98% of the body will be discarded anyway so why not recycle?

Depending on how exactly you formalize that argument, it would go through just as well for necrophilia. Yet it's not true that people supporting opt-out organ donation implies they support opt-out necrophilia. So I think most people reject your argument.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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I have never understood the big deal about organ donation. The dead person no longer uses the liver or whatnot and has no opinion. The other 98% of the body will be discarded anyway so why not recycle?

Depending on how exactly you formalize that argument, it would go through just as well for necrophilia. Yet it's not true that people supporting opt-out organ donation implies they support opt-out necrophilia. So I think most people reject your argument.

This is totally ridiculous. I guess we forgot that society governs itself based on moral norms. Approximately 0% would agree with necrophilia while I am thinking at least >50% would be okay with the idea of donating organs. When you add in the fact that you can opt out... how can anyone object? If you care enough, go ahead and opt out, no one will know or care. You are making a stupid and ridiculous equivalence.

Re: Charts that don’t seem quite right, organ donation edition (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's part superstition and part weird fear that doctors will let you die in order to harvest your organs.

That's not a weird fear. I've heard of it happening in a specific case.

Do you have any evidence at all? And even if some doctor did that once, to be afraid of some one-in-ten-million evil doctor is still an irrational fear that costs a lot of lives.
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