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Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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> Prosecutors John Borchert and Jennifer Kerkhoff argued that their request had to be somewhat broad because they have no idea who was associated with the rioting through the website until they review the data.

For people who think this is wrong, assuming you accept the premise that they should be investigating rioters, what alternative is there to find out who they are?

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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This is terrifying; am I reading it correctly that the government is, on behalf of the President, going after people who have opposed him and is starting a register maybe of those persons who hurt the feelings of the glorious leader? I wonder how far down the rabbit hole we are going :-(

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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post #3

> Prosecutors John Borchert and Jennifer Kerkhoff argued that their request had to be somewhat broad because they have no idea who was associated with the rioting through the website until they review the data. For people who think this is wrong, assuming you accept the premise that they should be investigating rioters, what alternative is there to find out who they are?

When you request the records of 1.3 million people in an effort to find the identities of about 200, that feels ridiculously broad. I'm not sure what they're hoping to find, but it seems like security camera footage would be much more useful than this action, which seems to look more like cracking down on political dissent.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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why does the site seem like a place to investigate a riot? were there posters saying "I'm leaving now to go riot"?

If there is nothing specific, then why is this allowable at all?

And if there is something specific, then why can't they request those specific messages?

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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post #3

> Prosecutors John Borchert and Jennifer Kerkhoff argued that their request had to be somewhat broad because they have no idea who was associated with the rioting through the website until they review the data. For people who think this is wrong, assuming you accept the premise that they should be investigating rioters, what alternative is there to find out who they are?

What rioters?

This is like saying a house got broken into in Los Angeles so let's pull the world's Facebook history to get to the bottom of it.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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There's lots of disturbing internet precedents being set in the last few weeks, both legal and corporate policy. I try not to be hyperbolic but I really am beginning to worry about the future of freedom of expression and association on the net.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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> Prosecutors John Borchert and Jennifer Kerkhoff argued that their request had to be somewhat broad because they have no idea who was associated with the rioting through the website until they review the data. For people who think this is wrong, assuming you accept the premise that they should be investigating rioters, what alternative is there to find out who they are?

In the old days before computers, I assume, one wouldn't have to hand over all "database" records. If one were being requested to hand over all patient records, that would probably be a small mountain of data.

I think technology has made data very easy to transport, and modern day governments have taken advantage of this sort of fishing expedition.

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