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Answers from 2017 Common Lisp experts

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Re: Answers from 2017 Common Lisp experts

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Post by mark_l_watson »

Wow, that is great, thanks for putting it together! I have been using CL since the mid 1980s, but cumulatively have just used the language for perhaps five years.

While I find myself using Python a lot because it wraps so many machine learning libraries and Java because of the ecosystem, there are other languages like CL, Ruby, and Haskell that all just make me feel good when I use them.

Re: Answers from 2017 Common Lisp experts

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Post by aaron-lebo »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #2

Wow, that is great, thanks for putting it together! I have been using CL since the mid 1980s, but cumulatively have just used the language for perhaps five years. While I find myself using Python a lot because it wraps so many machine learning libraries and Java because of the ecosystem, there are other languages like CL, Ruby, and Haskell that all just make me feel good when I use them.

I really wish I could use CL more. It's just that in almost every domain, the new libraries are elsewhere. You could use lisp for scientific computing, for example, but it'd be crazy to do so because you'd be reinventing so much that's getting built elsewhere. Similarly with games, C++ just has a lot more libraries available (you could FFI I guess, but that's never as bulletproof).

Not sure lisp is better at any one thing than being a lisp, which is great but I want to be able to justify reaching for it. 10 years ago PG had me believing that there'd be a lisp revival one day, but despite getting more and more polished, there's so much going on in other ecosystems.

Sorry for the rant, I know the lisp community has been building great stuff for decades, lisp is great.

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Post by grault »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #3
mark_l_watson wrote: post #2

Wow, that is great, thanks for putting it together! I have been using CL since the mid 1980s, but cumulatively have just used the language for perhaps five years. While I find myself using Python a lot because it wraps so many machine learning libraries and Java because of the ecosystem, there are other languages like CL, Ruby, and Haskell that all just make me feel good when I use them.

I really wish I could use CL more. It's just that in almost every domain, the new libraries are elsewhere. You could use lisp for scientific computing, for example, but it'd be crazy to do so because you'd be reinventing so much that's getting built elsewhere. Similarly with games, C++ just has a lot more libraries available (you could FFI I guess, but that's never as bulletproof). Not sure lisp is better at any one…

You don't have to reinvent a thing, just use some ffi (foreign function interface) implementation and call into whatever you want.

Re: Answers from 2017 Common Lisp experts

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Post by rtpg »

Lots of interesting stuff in here.

Feel like some people could probably say things with a bit less sass though... Replying to "I have a hard time finding good resources" with "everything is terrible" isn't super useful

Re: Answers from 2017 Common Lisp experts

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

rtpg wrote: post #7

Lots of interesting stuff in here. Feel like some people could probably say things with a bit less sass though... Replying to "I have a hard time finding good resources" with "everything is terrible" isn't super useful

The teknik.io gang is not known to be lacking in sass.
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