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Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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and the authority of governments everywhere is crumbling.

Good.

potentially undermining trust in incumbent governments for the foreseeable future

Even better. Trusting government is a fool's errand.

But, the document says, this should not be seen as defeatism, but rather a “wakeup call”. If nothing is done to adapt to this “post-primacy” environment, the complexity and speed of world events will “increasingly defy [DoD’s] current strategy, planning, and risk assessment conventions and biases.”

IOW, it's not the Department of Defense at all. It's more like the Department of World Domination.

Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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Good. Here's how things should go:

1. First America stops being world police.

2. America plays ball with rest of world (adopts metric system, becomes a leader in climate, shares control of internet, turns concern toward to real issues like asteroids, population growth, health issues, cyber security)

3. Citizens acknowledge that war is a tool for siphoning tax money into the coffers of people with connections/government-contracts, and move towards a post-war-era.

4. Citizens start to move to a post-nation era, where we acknowledge have more in common with each other than our own politicians who drive us apart for financial gain.

5. We move toward universalizing language, so we hit a point that declaring war with Iraq seems as absurd as declaring war with Canada.

6. The very concept of "superiority" and "class" becomes meaningless as we move into an era of excess due to automation.

[Link to Pentagon's study: https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/download.cfm?q=1358]

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Good. Here's how things should go: 1. First America stops being world police. 2. America plays ball with rest of world (adopts metric system, becomes a leader in climate, shares control of internet, turns concern toward to real issues like asteroids, population growth, health issues, cyber security) 3. Citizens acknowledge that war is a tool for siphoning tax money into the coffers of people with connections/governme…

That's a good way of becoming weak. Your enemies will be very glad to watch you try this.

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post #4

Good. Here's how things should go: 1. First America stops being world police. 2. America plays ball with rest of world (adopts metric system, becomes a leader in climate, shares control of internet, turns concern toward to real issues like asteroids, population growth, health issues, cyber security) 3. Citizens acknowledge that war is a tool for siphoning tax money into the coffers of people with connections/governme…

That's a good way of becoming weak. Your enemies will be very glad to watch you try this.

Please elaborate how exactly this leads to weakness? And how do you define it in the first place?

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Good. Here's how things should go: 1. First America stops being world police. 2. America plays ball with rest of world (adopts metric system, becomes a leader in climate, shares control of internet, turns concern toward to real issues like asteroids, population growth, health issues, cyber security) 3. Citizens acknowledge that war is a tool for siphoning tax money into the coffers of people with connections/governme…

This is a laundry list of stuff that will never happen in any current country in any of our life times.

Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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Good. Here's how things should go: 1. First America stops being world police. 2. America plays ball with rest of world (adopts metric system, becomes a leader in climate, shares control of internet, turns concern toward to real issues like asteroids, population growth, health issues, cyber security) 3. Citizens acknowledge that war is a tool for siphoning tax money into the coffers of people with connections/governme…

are asteroids a real issue?

Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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post #5
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good way of becoming weak. Your enemies will be very glad to watch you try this.

Please elaborate how exactly this leads to weakness? And how do you define it in the first place?

Seriously? Giving away things tends to weaken one.

Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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This was a top post in r/geopolitics a couple of days back. I can't find the link anymore, probably because it was removed. A lot of them commented that this sounded like DoD propaganda to get increased funding, especially when you consider that this study was funded by DoD.

Anyway, it is truly scary if they think they need to massively expand the already unparalleled American military dominance.

Re: Pentagon study declares American Empire is 'collapsing'

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and the authority of governments everywhere is crumbling. Good. potentially undermining trust in incumbent governments for the foreseeable future Even better. Trusting government is a fool's errand. But, the document says, this should not be seen as defeatism, but rather a “wakeup call”. If nothing is done to adapt to this “post-primacy” environment, the complexity and speed of world events will “increasingly defy [D…

I especially enjoy the fact they seem to be deeming their own citizens as enemies.

Great job guys!

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