Crowdsourcing, the Gulf Oil Spill and the Arrogance of BP
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Crowdsourcing, the Gulf Oil Spill and the Arrogance of BP
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#2Official word from Innocentive: http://blog.innocentive.com/2010/06/23/innocentive-oil-spill...
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#3A "solution" isn't an idea. Ideas are 10 a penny. How many of those solutions were actual plans that could be put into effect, bills of materials, Gantt charts, cost breakdowns?
Personally I would rather BP be getting on with the job than reading unsolicited email from the peanut gallery.
Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal. BP has made a huge mess sure, but after the initial explosion, no-one has died. I think Americans need to take a good long hard look at themselves in a mirror before getting on their high horses.
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#4Unbelievable. Especially after reading the official word from Innocentive posted by shaddi in this thread. Do we know at least what BP's rationale. They seem to be focused on spending minimally on additional efforts to close the open well or cleanup the spill and really rely on the August relief well as the only worth investment right now.
Their rationale: Can't just be cost containment? That would be so idiotic and short sighted! They are going to be dealing with this as a corporation for decades...
They should be owning up to it now. But maybe it's just short sightedness of the people in charge currently. They will likely all be retired long before this is over...
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#5Unbelievable. Especially after reading the official word from Innocentive posted by shaddi in this thread. Do we know at least what BP's rationale. They seem to be focused on spending minimally on additional efforts to close the open well or cleanup the spill and really rely on the August relief well as the only worth investment right now. Their rationale: Can't just be cost containment? That would be so idiotic and…
The rationale is simple: it freaking complex for a large corporation to navigate legal wranglings with "normal" trading partners during the best of times; given that they are currently embroiled in what already may bankrupt them, it does not make sense to embark upon a partnership with an unknown entity type.
Put simply -- they know what they know and they know what they don't know, and they're worried that if they step outside the comfort zone of redlines, LOLs, and escape clauses that they could worsen rather than improve the current situation.
That said, it is really myopic of them and it does demonstrate a possibly disastrous lack of foresight.
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#6A "solution" isn't an idea. Ideas are 10 a penny. How many of those solutions were actual plans that could be put into effect, bills of materials, Gantt charts, cost breakdowns? Personally I would rather BP be getting on with the job than reading unsolicited email from the peanut gallery. Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal. BP has made…
So environmental damage to many thousands of square miles (how many cubic?) has no/low implied cost, only human damages?
That's not exactly a good message to be sending to businesses.
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#7A "solution" isn't an idea. Ideas are 10 a penny. How many of those solutions were actual plans that could be put into effect, bills of materials, Gantt charts, cost breakdowns? Personally I would rather BP be getting on with the job than reading unsolicited email from the peanut gallery. Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal. BP has made…
Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal
First of all, let's not pretend like all American's are happy with Union Carbide's "punishment" for that incident.
Second, BP isn't paying for deaths. They must pay for the monumental cleanup and economic damages resulting from the environmental disaster they caused. It's expensive.
According to the article, Innocentive has a global network of more than 200,000 engineers, scientists, inventors, and business people who are experts in physics, chemistry, math, life sciences, computer science, and many other fields.. I wouldn't be so fast to discount the worth of their ideas. It's that kind of arrogance that got them in trouble in the first place.
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#8A "solution" isn't an idea. Ideas are 10 a penny. How many of those solutions were actual plans that could be put into effect, bills of materials, Gantt charts, cost breakdowns? Personally I would rather BP be getting on with the job than reading unsolicited email from the peanut gallery. Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal. BP has made…
Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal First of all, let's not pretend like all American's are happy with Union Carbide's "punishment" for that incident. Second, BP isn't paying for deaths. They must pay for the monumental cleanup and economic damages resulting from the environmental disaster they caused. It's expensive. According to the ar…
According to Innocentive, perhaps. But my point stands: how many of these solutions were actually actionable? And even if all thousand of them are - the engineers qualified to evaluate them are all busy working on the problem themselves!
This just looks like some free publicity for Innocentive. Maybe they're the arrogant ones?
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#9A "solution" isn't an idea. Ideas are 10 a penny. How many of those solutions were actual plans that could be put into effect, bills of materials, Gantt charts, cost breakdowns? Personally I would rather BP be getting on with the job than reading unsolicited email from the peanut gallery. Oh, and to put that $2.35Bn into perspective, Union Carbide paid out $450M for, umm, killing 20,000 people at Bhopal. BP has made…
So environmental damage to many thousands of square miles (how many cubic?) has no/low implied cost, only human damages? That's not exactly a good message to be sending to businesses.
That's not what I said. Rather, much is made about how BP is not doing enough, yet what it has already done dwarfs what UC did. And Americans didn't bat an eyelid.
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#10I had an idea today, where you'd take a large heavy Prism and lower it where the pipe would go- the pipe would have to be removed. The pressure of the oil coming out would push the sand around the prism, and allow the prism to sink. The prism would obviously continue to sink, and it could follow with concrete rubble.